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re: Church splits are coming. Preached to about this. (UMC Related)
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:07 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:07 am to RollTide1987
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The Bishop of Rome always had that power and it was acknowledged by the Bishop of Constantinople as well as the rest of Christendom going back to the beginning. There are numerous historical examples that can be cited. This whole "first among equals" BS was started by the Church in Constantinople because that particular bishop sought greater earthly power.
No it wasn’t. Even your own Pope Gregory denounced such things. What you’re referencing is the fake history.
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There's a reason why the great Sees of the Eastern Church, including Constantinople, fell to Islamic conquest while Rome remained untouched. I also don't find it a big coincidence that the greatest heresies in the history of the Church (Gnosticism, Arianism, Pelagianism, Nestorianism, and Monophysitism) all started in the East.
That’s a pretty pointless argument. Many cities have come and gone, and yet Orthodoxy perseveres. As far as these issues arising in the east, four of the five patriarchates were in the east. Today, Orthodoxy is free not only of those issues but also of the innovations within Roman Catholicism of the second millennium of Christian history.
But really this discussion belongs somewhere besides this thread.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:18 am to Boatshoes
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No it wasn’t.
Yes it was. The Council of Chalcedon (451) even acknowledges this by pronouncing in one of its canons that the See of Constantinople was second in eminence and power to the See of Rome. That particular canon was of disputed validity and rejected by Pope St. Leo I at that time. It laid the ground work for the eventual pronouncement of the Patriarch of Constantinople, in later centuries, that he was the "first among equals," which inevitably led to the great East-West Schism.
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That’s a pretty pointless argument. Many cities have come and gone, and yet Orthodoxy perseveres.
Under occupation. The great See of Alexandria has been in a state of heresy since the 6th century with Monophysitism. The great See of Antioch doesn't even exist anymore. And whether you like it or not, Orthodoxy and Catholicism are slowly making their way toward reunification, which is a good thing in the grand scheme of everything.
Orthodoxy membership has also fallen to less than 12% of the total Christian population, while Catholicism has risen to over 50%. God is on the side of the One, True Church my friend.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 6:21 am
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