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re: Is Nick Saban the luckiest coach ever?
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:29 am to lsu777
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:29 am to lsu777
Osborne allowed partial qualifiers, but remember he lost a bunch of games to the the biggest cheaters of all time, OU, and Switzer's thugs. He dismantled the previously undefeated Gators who were in the middle of dominating the SEC in 1996.
Agree that Bowden should probably be ahead of him though, I can't imagine how many titles he would have had if a playoff had been around. Bowden was not without fault either, he allowed players that no one else would take and got Tallahassee PD to reduce their felonies to misdemeanors.
Agree that Bowden should probably be ahead of him though, I can't imagine how many titles he would have had if a playoff had been around. Bowden was not without fault either, he allowed players that no one else would take and got Tallahassee PD to reduce their felonies to misdemeanors.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:43 am to Mithridates6
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Osborne allowed partial qualifiers, but remember he lost a bunch of games to the the biggest cheaters of all time, OU, and Switzer's thugs. He dismantled the previously undefeated Gators who were in the middle of dominating the SEC in 1996.
Agree that Bowden should probably be ahead of him though, I can't imagine how many titles he would have had if a playoff had been around. Bowden was not without fault either, he allowed players that no one else would take and got Tallahassee PD to reduce their felonies to misdemeanors.
I don't care about players getting arrested...and charges reduced and player staying on the team.
Saban is the best at that....and guess what he is right. He was right when he asked if you would rather them be cast off into the night. From a society standpoint those kids being on any of those teams, being in school etc is a net gain.
Now Osborne was dead wrong on Lawrence as he was a danger to the campus.
And OU was not cheating anymore than Nebraska was. And his overall record against top 10 teams not named OU was shite. And yea peak Nebraska dismantled UF....so what? SEC was pretty damn shitty during the 90s.
Osborne is way down the list. He was handed a dominating program and made it better...yes, but his record against teams with equal or greater talent speaks for itself. He pushed the rules and never really got caught and I try not to hold it against him too much, but overall I judge coaches on their ability to build, maintain a program and then wins vs teams with equal or greater talent.
Bowden is much much better in all of those aspects. Paterno too.
All ahead of osborne
Saban
Bryant
Meyer
Spurrier
Switzer
Stoops
Carroll
Paterno
Might be others also. Mack brown, tressel and Jimmy Johnson would be up there with him too.
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