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re: Pretty disheartening poll: wide majority of even most republicans support wealth taxes
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:52 pm to funnystuff
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:52 pm to funnystuff
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:55 pm to dawgfan24348
LOL
It took the 16th Amendment to impose a constitutional income tax.
Neither the word "wealth", nor "assets" are in that Amendment.
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It took the 16th Amendment to impose a constitutional income tax.
Neither the word "wealth", nor "assets" are in that Amendment.
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:34 pm to dawgfan24348
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Well actually you're wrong
LINK /
Well actually you or anybody else that believes this shite would stopwith the "1%" is a moron. WHatever the "1%" has will nowhere near pay for all the shite the leftists say it will.
This is nothing but nose under the tent shite to open up taxing what people have already been taxed on.
Of course, corporate taxes already do that.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:36 pm to dawgfan24348
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Warren’s wealth tax is constitutional under the standards laid down by the Founders, as this article will demonstrate.
I stopped here...I'm sure there are just as many articles demonstrating the opposite is also true.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 9:42 pm to dawgfan24348
I believe firmly that I am not wrong, and posting an op-Ed from 2 lawyers at UT is not sufficient to change that opinion.
And just in case you skipped the actual writing and jumped right to the conclusion, let me summarize what your link actually says. The two lawyers’ entire argument is that, although the constitution says that a wealth tax is illegal, a wealth tax is not actually illegal because that’s not what the founders meant.
Their argument is simply that a subset of founders did not intend the apportionment clause to limit the extent to which wealth was taxed, and so wealth should be allowed to be taxed. But that’s an EXTREMELY dubious precedent to establish. If we were to go that route, then we could equivalently argue that, because a subset of the founders intended for the “freedom of religion” portion of the first amendment to only apply to Christian religions, that we could omit all other religions from first amendment protections.
CLEARLY, using a minority opinion to reinterpret the direct wording of the constitution puts us on perilous grounds. And if you are in fact going to challenge those grounds, I don’t think collecting taxes is the appropriate hill to die on.
If we want a wealth tax, the only reasonable approach to take is a constitutional convention. Anyone telling you that a wealth tax will be approved by the Supreme Court without a constitutional amendment is telling you a bold-faced lie.
And just in case you skipped the actual writing and jumped right to the conclusion, let me summarize what your link actually says. The two lawyers’ entire argument is that, although the constitution says that a wealth tax is illegal, a wealth tax is not actually illegal because that’s not what the founders meant.
Their argument is simply that a subset of founders did not intend the apportionment clause to limit the extent to which wealth was taxed, and so wealth should be allowed to be taxed. But that’s an EXTREMELY dubious precedent to establish. If we were to go that route, then we could equivalently argue that, because a subset of the founders intended for the “freedom of religion” portion of the first amendment to only apply to Christian religions, that we could omit all other religions from first amendment protections.
CLEARLY, using a minority opinion to reinterpret the direct wording of the constitution puts us on perilous grounds. And if you are in fact going to challenge those grounds, I don’t think collecting taxes is the appropriate hill to die on.
If we want a wealth tax, the only reasonable approach to take is a constitutional convention. Anyone telling you that a wealth tax will be approved by the Supreme Court without a constitutional amendment is telling you a bold-faced lie.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 7:08 am to dawgfan24348
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Well actually you're wrong
LINK /
Sat and read this.
First strike - ABA article
Second strike - author admits the most recent statement on the issue from SCOTUS is against the being constitutional.
Third strike - steeped in "original intent" which if accepted about be no bueno to the progressive agenda
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