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Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by UpstairsComputer
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:54 pm to
I disagree on the fee only part. Think about why you're saying that... 1) because you don't want someone who is going to be pushing you into products that generate commissions for them and not you and all the conflicts that go with you buying their pool. I get it. I really do.

Taken a step further for long term planning, 2) you must then be ok with the fee only guy/gal referring your business to a strictly commission based insurance salesman... because the advisor can't then refer to another "fee based" advisor (talk about a crappy business model) so they have to refer to someone who doesn't compete directly with them... someone who can't sell securities.

You can always follow up the are you fee only with a question like this: What percentage of your revenue is commissions? I would argue that anything above about 10% would be cause to probe with more questions.

For example, me. I'm a "fee based" CFP RIA Fiduciary. Between 2-5% of my revenue annually is based on life, disability, and long term care sales. My current pipeline of insurance consists of 3 term life policies with total annual premium in the neighborhood of $800 (talk about year changing revenue there) and 4-5 LTC policies which, to be fair, are substantial in year one. But for the love of God, I would not want to send a financial planning client down the road to some salesman to get a LTC policy from ole Gill who really needs a sale.

To the OP, solve all your problems by finding a Registered Investment Advisor (RIA) who is a CFP. 2 for 1 in the fiduciary column with these two. Bonus points if they were in the business in 2007. Then it's just about expectations and personality. Good luck!

eta. I was not your downvote...
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:49 pm to
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UpstairsComputer


I had lunch yesterday with an FA that I had not met before, but was introduced to him by another FA with the same broker/dealer for whom I do the tax work for about 10 clients. The guy I met yesterday is looking for someone to help some of his clients as "his CPA guy" is retiring at year end.

Anyways we were talking about his model and he said he rarely, if ever does fee only. I thought this was odd so I asked him about it, and he said something very interesting.

I'm paraphrasing, but he said if you put people in good investments and have a good understanding of their risk tolerance, then you don't need to buy or sell investments often, and thus, you don't earn much commissions. Therefore, his clients pay less on a commission model, than they would paying a % of assets every quarter, a fee that never stops.

I think the knock is most commission based advisors are bad because of the propensity to churn. But if you don't churn... maybe it works?
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