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Army 1st Lt. Clint Lorance back with family vid clip
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:55 pm
Army 1st Lt. Clint Lorance, one of two U.S. Army officers granted clemency Friday by POTUS Trump, was released from prison in Kansas on Friday night & reunited w/ family members.”
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 4:57 pm to mistydoo
attracted some real vermin in the comments
Posted on 11/16/19 at 5:05 pm to mistydoo
Disgusting. This guy's 3 days in command of a platoon were one instance after another of ordering murder, and after the murders he ordered, he lied and covered up to his commanders about what he had done.
Luckily, most of the low-ranking privates he ordered to commit murder had more moral core than he did. They mostly refused his orders or "missed" the shots he told them to take at unarmed people, or the bloodshed would have been worse.
Unfortunately, one soldier did obey his order, and two unarmed men riding a motorcycle were machine-gunned to death. They had not presented a threat to anyone and were just minding their own business. Lorance threatened to murder villagers who complained about what he had done. Then he lied to his superiors about what he had done. The soldiers in his own platoon were the witnesses against him. Not one of them took the stand to support him, for the simple reason that there was nothing right about anything he did.
He should still be in prison. This pardon is a disgrace.
Luckily, most of the low-ranking privates he ordered to commit murder had more moral core than he did. They mostly refused his orders or "missed" the shots he told them to take at unarmed people, or the bloodshed would have been worse.
Unfortunately, one soldier did obey his order, and two unarmed men riding a motorcycle were machine-gunned to death. They had not presented a threat to anyone and were just minding their own business. Lorance threatened to murder villagers who complained about what he had done. Then he lied to his superiors about what he had done. The soldiers in his own platoon were the witnesses against him. Not one of them took the stand to support him, for the simple reason that there was nothing right about anything he did.
He should still be in prison. This pardon is a disgrace.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 6:10 pm to mistydoo
To me this whole story is an indictment of how fricked up the US Army and the War in Afghanistan was by this phase in the war.
Lorance sounds like he was an incompetent as a platoon leader, he had a platoon sergeant who was a SSG, young for the position. Lorance assumed a platoon whose platoon leader was wounded.
The quality of soldiers was rapidly deteriorating by this point in the war. And I cringe to think about this platoon, and the myriad of issues they likely had similar to most units across theatre.
But we launch a surge because Afghanistan is the "good" war (Obama). McChrystal turns out to have a shite show of a staff. Where is the rest of the chain of command in this story?
Maybe justice would have been everyone from LT to Commander in Chief splitting this sentence.
Lorance sounds like he was an incompetent as a platoon leader, he had a platoon sergeant who was a SSG, young for the position. Lorance assumed a platoon whose platoon leader was wounded.
The quality of soldiers was rapidly deteriorating by this point in the war. And I cringe to think about this platoon, and the myriad of issues they likely had similar to most units across theatre.
But we launch a surge because Afghanistan is the "good" war (Obama). McChrystal turns out to have a shite show of a staff. Where is the rest of the chain of command in this story?
Maybe justice would have been everyone from LT to Commander in Chief splitting this sentence.
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