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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:31 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:31 pm to FooManChoo
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This reduces morality to nothing more than a convention determined by each individual, or as I and others like to say, a preference rather than a actual moral ought.
I hate to break it to you, but this is the case with or without belief in God. That is the human condition, and is evident in any instance of corruption or counter-action within a church.
What of the "morality" of pre-Christian societies like the Greeks and Romans?
What of the evolution of Christian "morality" over 2000 years.
What about Judean morality? And the difference in morality of the Judean God and the Christian God, when they are the same?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 5:10 pm to WildManGoose
quote:Not so.
I hate to break it to you, but this is the case with or without belief in God.
quote:The human condition is sinful. Sin is lack of conformity to God's law. God's law is the standard for morality.
That is the human condition, and is evident in any instance of corruption or counter-action within a church.
You don't judge a framework by those who violate it. I have a basis to condemn sin because I know what the standard is that defines what sin is.
quote:What of them? They were sinful like all other societies yet had no basis for moral truth due to their professed beliefs.
What of the "morality" of pre-Christian societies like the Greeks and Romans?
quote:What evolution? The Bible is the standard of Christian morality and it hasn't changed over 2,000 years. The standard is still there, regardless of how the actions of Christians have changed over that period of time. We still have a basis to condemn the sins of Christians.
What of the evolution of Christian "morality" over 2000 years.
quote:The 10 commandments are the summary of God's moral law, which Jesus further summarized by loving God and loving each other. The moral standard is the same between the old testament and the new testament. What has changed was the application of the moral law in the civil life of Israel vs. the Church and the ceremonial law of Israel vs. the work of Christ on the cross. The moral law--which the other two forms of law proceed from--comes from God's very character, which is eternal and unchanging.
What about Judean morality? And the difference in morality of the Judean God and the Christian God, when they are the same?
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