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re: Stunning Admission By Renowned Atheist; Decline of Christianity is Hurting Society

Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:20 pm to
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There's no such thing as a conscience though. That conscience is nothing more than a few neurons firing one way and the other. There is no conscience as there is nothing beyond the biological that exists. Or there shouldn't be with a purely atheist view.

If you were agnostic or a general deist in some sense, without being christian, sure. But a real athetist should believe in no "thing" beyond the biological. Conscience is then just an illusion that we decide to accept, or it's a biological reaction that merely exists to continue the existence of the species and drive biologically based decision making that evolves the species. Nothing more.

this is a weak argument against atheism (or "what atheists should believe") and physicalism in general. non-reductive physicalism and epiphenomenalism both recognize the reality of mind states and their physical or what you are calling "biological" basis.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37443 posts
Posted on 11/8/19 at 8:46 am to
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this is a weak argument against atheism (or "what atheists should believe") and physicalism in general. non-reductive physicalism and epiphenomenalism both recognize the reality of mind states and their physical or what you are calling "biological" basis.



I wouldn't disagree, I was just arguing against the idea that "conscience" is the thing that makes atheism work. It doesn't, because in that view it can't be real. There are better ways to break true atheism down.
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