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re: Important but subtle question about the Ukraine situation.
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:06 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:06 am to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:Why?
I will say this I do believe it would have been improper for Trump to have requested an investigation of Joe Biden.
We know Ukraine had a MAJOR corruption problem during the Obama years. What we should know, but don't yet, is the degree to which the US contributed to that corruption.
Here is some of what we know:
• We know Hunter Biden joined the Burisma Board in April 2014 and was paid at least $3Million with absolutely no qualification other than his relationship to JoeBiden.
• We know Ukraine's General Prosecutor (UGP) oversaw an investigation forcing Mykola Zlochevsky, the Burisma CEO, to flee the country in Dec 2014
• We know that within two months of Zlochevsky's exit, the US instilled a foreigner, David Sakvarelidze, into the Prosecutor General's office. Sakvarelidze immediately set about undermining the Gen Prosecutor.
• We know that at the same time it was claiming Shokin, the UGP, to be refusing to investigate cases, the US was defunding Shokin's office and denying funding for those same investigations.
• We know JoeBiden ultimately forced (extorted) Shokin's dismissal.
• We know Shokin's replacement Yuriy Lutsenko, termed by Biden to be a "good man", is an alcoholic ex-con who did not even have a law degree.
• We know that within months of Lutsenko's appointment, Burisma's CEO was able to return from exile due to investigations being dropped.
So given what we know, why in the world shouldn't we give Ukraine the green light to look into Joe Biden's actions?
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Posted on 11/4/19 at 8:28 am to NC_Tigah
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given what we know, why in the world shouldn't we give Ukraine the green light to look into Joe Biden's actions?
And why wouldn’t we be hesitant to give Ukraine $$$ given the known corruption there. I don’t support giving my tax $$, only to have it be stolen. We have a right to get assurances before giving our tax dollars.
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 8:30 am
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:03 am to NC_Tigah
You forgot a few items:LINK /
-The US called for Shokin to be investigated and/or removed at least twice in 2015 and Biden enjoyed rare bipartisan support on the issue before Shokin was removed in 2016
-In January 2015, more than a year before Shokin was fired, the U.K. Central Criminal Court, in a lengthy written decision, concluded that there was no reasonable cause to believe that Mr. Zlochevskyi’s assets were unlawfully acquired as a result of misconduct while he served in public office. In addition, the U.K. court found that the SFO materially and significantly failed to disclose relevant documents favorable to Mr. Zlochevskyi.
-In September 2016, the Pechersk District Court of the City of Kyiv concluded that no criminal procedures should be taken against Mr. Zlochevskyi. In other words, the Pechersk District Court reached the same conclusion as the U.K. Central Criminal Court.
-The allegation against Biden come from Parnas and Fruman
-The US called for Shokin to be investigated and/or removed at least twice in 2015 and Biden enjoyed rare bipartisan support on the issue before Shokin was removed in 2016
-In January 2015, more than a year before Shokin was fired, the U.K. Central Criminal Court, in a lengthy written decision, concluded that there was no reasonable cause to believe that Mr. Zlochevskyi’s assets were unlawfully acquired as a result of misconduct while he served in public office. In addition, the U.K. court found that the SFO materially and significantly failed to disclose relevant documents favorable to Mr. Zlochevskyi.
-In September 2016, the Pechersk District Court of the City of Kyiv concluded that no criminal procedures should be taken against Mr. Zlochevskyi. In other words, the Pechersk District Court reached the same conclusion as the U.K. Central Criminal Court.
-The allegation against Biden come from Parnas and Fruman
This post was edited on 11/4/19 at 9:04 am
Posted on 11/4/19 at 9:19 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Here is some of what we know:
• We know Hunter Biden joined the Burisma Board in April 2014 and was paid at least $3Million with absolutely no qualification other than his relationship to JoeBiden.
• We know Ukraine's General Prosecutor (UGP) oversaw an investigation forcing Mykola Zlochevsky, the Burisma CEO, to flee the country in Dec 2014
• We know that within two months of Zlochevsky's exit, the US instilled a foreigner, David Sakvarelidze, into the Prosecutor General's office. Sakvarelidze immediately set about undermining the Gen Prosecutor.
• We know that at the same time it was claiming Shokin, the UGP, to be refusing to investigate cases, the US was defunding Shokin's office and denying funding for those same investigations.
• We know JoeBiden ultimately forced (extorted) Shokin's dismissal.
• We know Shokin's replacement Yuriy Lutsenko, termed by Biden to be a "good man", is an alcoholic ex-con who did not even have a law degree.
• We know that within months of Lutsenko's appointment, Burisma's CEO was able to return from exile due to investigations being dropped.
So given what we know, why in the world shouldn't we give Ukraine the green light to look into Joe Biden's actions?
None of that matters to people who are cultishly brainwashed.
It's amazing.
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