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re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassing
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I've asked for links you cannot provide, becausecyou make shite up
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And again, you've called me an Orgeron hater probably 50 times.
Prove it
If I provide links to both things I'm claiming, then you will not post till after Bama game. If I can't provide links, I don't post till after Bama game. Do we have a deal?
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Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:37 pm to slackster
UF punted 7 times vs Auburn and lost 4 fumbles. They punted 4 times last night and had one pick. Auburn played better than us. Just like Oklahoma played better vs Texas than us. Try again.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:37 pm to Brazos
Aranda needs a blitzing coordinator to help with defensive schemes just like Ensmiger has Joe Brady as passing coordinator.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:37 pm to slackster
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playing some zone
Some zone, and also more pressure on the QB
QB pressure made a big difference
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:38 pm to RedTigerRulz
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This doesnt excuse the fact that the D was straight up arse the first half of the game.
Make excuses all you want, but this is a fact and I refuse to believe.....as Shorty Rob is suggesting.....that this is a part of the master plan.
They don't plan to be arse, but they plan to keep everything in front and force UF to drive the field.
UF punted on 2 of its first 3 drives to start the game. It was working until it wasn't.
I'd you know anything about football, you know that chunk plays are your enemy. Forcing a team to drive the field with 12-13 play drives is something you'll take every day of the week.
ETA - you don't expect UF - or anyone really - to pull off 4 of those in one game.
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:39 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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If I provide links to both things I'm claiming, then you will not post till after Bama game
Show me the 50 times I called you an Orgeron hater
Show where I said you claimed "Burrow sucked"
Show where I "constantly" defended the offense
And I'll permaban
Now if you can't, you permaban
Deal?
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:41 pm to Brazos
Those passes that Trask was throwing in the first half would have been difficult for anyone to defend......one of the TDs was a lucky pass and we should have intercepted another one....
Aranda made second-half adjustments by putting more pressure on the QB....it worked...so....I'm not complaining....
Aranda made second-half adjustments by putting more pressure on the QB....it worked...so....I'm not complaining....
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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QB pressure made a big difference
Yeah, but the fallacy is the thought that no QB pressure means no blitzes, and that's simply untrue. The blitz can get picked up, and often does.
Trask threw the ball away a few times in the first half. He played well.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:43 pm to slackster
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Yeah, but the fallacy is the thought that no QB pressure means no blitzes, and that's simply untrue. The blitz can get picked up, and often does.
While true, we found a way to get more pressure on the QB and will have to do it again in at least three upcoming games.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:45 pm to slackster
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ETA - you don't expect UF - or anyone really - to pull off 4 of those in one game.
Bama will and A&M will give us problems if we drop 8 through the first half and give them the ability to dictate the tempo and matchups. That’s what has happened in all but two games, and they were cream puffs. We made two really bad offenses look far better than they are in first halves.
To answer your question, the sky isn’t falling. The current scheme won’t work against Bama or any playoff team. If your expectations are 10-2 and a bowl loss, then I guess it’s cool.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
We'll see. I'd be surprised if we go after Tua any more than normal. Keeping everything in front may be a better way to go. Alabama, much like us, lives on the big play.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So terms of the deal:
- I provide you more than one link of you saying I'm an Orgeron hater (I'm not finding 50 damn links. I used that as a number to suggest you did it often). I can certainly find some though.
- I provide links to you constantly defending a bad offense last season.
- perma ban for me if I don't provide links. Perma ban for you if I do provide links.
- this will take me time to dig through (but I will if it means getting rid of your dumb arse). It will be completed by Wednesday, 10/16 by 4 PM Central, or I am perma banned.
I just told you, you may have not used those words, but I took you saying I melted over Burrow all off-season to mean I thought he would suck. I asked you to tell me what you meant and you still refuse to do so. No link needs to be provided for this.
Do we have a deal? I just need a yes or no. Not your twisted little answer.
- I provide you more than one link of you saying I'm an Orgeron hater (I'm not finding 50 damn links. I used that as a number to suggest you did it often). I can certainly find some though.
- I provide links to you constantly defending a bad offense last season.
- perma ban for me if I don't provide links. Perma ban for you if I do provide links.
- this will take me time to dig through (but I will if it means getting rid of your dumb arse). It will be completed by Wednesday, 10/16 by 4 PM Central, or I am perma banned.
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Show where I said you claimed "Burrow sucked"
I just told you, you may have not used those words, but I took you saying I melted over Burrow all off-season to mean I thought he would suck. I asked you to tell me what you meant and you still refuse to do so. No link needs to be provided for this.
Do we have a deal? I just need a yes or no. Not your twisted little answer.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:47 pm to slackster
Trask was on the money on some big 3rd down throws, and also in the red zone and that made a big difference.
A blown coverage and an unlucky bounce accounted for the first two UF TDs.
Overall I think the defense has been unlucky and run into some decent passing QBs.
Something I haven’t seen discussed much is how LSUs offensive efficiency may be affecting the offensive play-calling from opposing coaches.
Mullen knew he needed to score a lot of points to win. He had to take chances throwing the ball and play-calling in general that he might not have taken against a less productive offensive team, like Auburn.
What I think we are seeing is that we are getting the opponents best shot, with no holds barred, and it sometimes works, but over the course of the game they can’t keep up with the offense, and our defensive is talented enough to stop them a few times.
Have we been seeing good defensive play for years partially because our opponents didn’t want to take unnecessary chances against us, given that we had an inefficient offense? I think so.
A blown coverage and an unlucky bounce accounted for the first two UF TDs.
Overall I think the defense has been unlucky and run into some decent passing QBs.
Something I haven’t seen discussed much is how LSUs offensive efficiency may be affecting the offensive play-calling from opposing coaches.
Mullen knew he needed to score a lot of points to win. He had to take chances throwing the ball and play-calling in general that he might not have taken against a less productive offensive team, like Auburn.
What I think we are seeing is that we are getting the opponents best shot, with no holds barred, and it sometimes works, but over the course of the game they can’t keep up with the offense, and our defensive is talented enough to stop them a few times.
Have we been seeing good defensive play for years partially because our opponents didn’t want to take unnecessary chances against us, given that we had an inefficient offense? I think so.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:47 pm to LSUbase13
Our defensive line is average to below average. That is the issue plain and simple.
You cannot give any competent QB 5 and 6 seconds to throw.
We do this week after week like it is our plan. We gave up six or seven 75 yard drives.
Bama is going to torch our defense. Fortunately our offense might in fact torch theirs
You cannot give any competent QB 5 and 6 seconds to throw.
We do this week after week like it is our plan. We gave up six or seven 75 yard drives.
Bama is going to torch our defense. Fortunately our offense might in fact torch theirs
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:48 pm to slackster
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Forcing a team to drive the field with 12-13 play drives is something you'll take every day of the week.
Except this philosophy gasses the defense completely which I don't believe in doing. I'm not a big believer in the prudent approach 100% of the time....as we played it in the first half.
We have got to get more pressure on the QB earlier in the game if for no other reason, than to fk with his head.
Trask was taking his leisurely time dissecting our D last night and wearing them down.
Selling out some on D to get those 3-and-outs has value too.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:48 pm to Brazos
He made adjustments at the half but that's the problem. His game plans are junk too often!!!
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:49 pm to slackster
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Yeah, but the fallacy is the thought that no QB pressure means no blitzes, and that's simply untrue. The blitz can get picked up, and often does.
The D allowed him to get comfortable and in a rhythm because they rarely blitzed or stunted in the first half.. Go back and look at how many times we rushed 3 or 4. A 4 man rush is not a blitz.
The problem with this first half philosophy is this- if you let an above avg or better QB get comfortable and confident, they are a lot harder to stop. We gave Mullen and Trask easy choices and he got rolling. Why not try to alter the QB’s confidence early in the game and get him off rhythm from the outset before backing off? Is that so unreasonable?
This post was edited on 10/13/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:50 pm to thetigerdew
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djustments at the half
I'm tired of being reactive. Time to be proactive on D for a change.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:50 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Except this philosophy gasses the defense completely which I don't believe in doing.
Well you don't expect it to happen a bunch. You take the approach that they're going to have to drive the field a few yards at a time if they're going to score, but you obviously hope to stop them during the drive.
The fact UF drove the field 3 times over 11 plays in the first half is an anomaly.
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Aranda addressed it though and did exactly what we wanted him to do, everyone should be pleased.
How can you possibly say this? They drove the entire field, multiple 3rd conversions and 1) threw an end zone pick and 2) failed on a 4th conversion at the 3.
That is not adjustments improving the D. That is an offense fricking up.
This Aranda halftime adjustments lie has gotta get called out.
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