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re: Can someone give a summary?

Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by BeefDawg
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 2:49 pm to
1. When Biden was VP, his cokehead son, Hunter (who was kicked out of the Navy for cocaine use and busted multiple times with cocaine in his possession), who has no oil and gas experience, somehow got appointed to the board of a Ukrainian oil and gas company, Burisma, and they were paying Hunter upwards of $83,000 PER MONTH for who knows what.

2. Ukraine's Justice Department had Burisma under investigation for things like money laundering, fraud, extortion, etc. etc. The lead Prosecutor General for Ukraine heading up that investigation was named Shokin.

3. Then VP Joe Biden was [conveniently] tasked by Obama to be the liaison/point-man between the Ukraine and the US shortly after Russia annexed Crimea. We were tossing a lot of funding at Ukraine to assist them with their problems with Russia, as well as authorizing large bank loans to help their struggling military and infrastructure.

4. Then VP Joe Biden threatened to withhold a billion in approved loans unless the Ukrainians fired Shokin. So they did, and almost immediately the investigation into Burisma was over. Biden was even tasked with helping approve the Ukraine's new lead Prosecutor General. Biden publicly bragged about this in a televised interview in 2016, literally admitting openly and laughing about how he threatened to withhold the billion dollars if they didn't fire Shokin.

5. On the downlow, the Ukrainian government tried to get the evidence of this situation, along with evidence of certain Democrats trying to coerce Ukraine into finding dirt on candidate Trump, to the DOJ somehow. But when they handed all the evidence to the US Ambassador to Ukraine, she swept it under the rug and never gave it to anyone. They then tried to reach out directly to the DOJ, but again were rebuffed. They then tried to reach out direct to the State Department, but individuals in the State Dept. were blocked by certain folks in the DOJ. So none of this evidence ever made it anywhere... until now.

6. The Ukraine had an election and a new President with a new administration was elected.

7. Probably as a result of the election, the folks at the State Dept. who were previously blocked by DOJ, went directly to Rudy Guiliani and explained the situation and asked him to help them get this evidence from Ukraine. Which apparently he did somehow.

8. Then last month, Trump has a phone conversation with the new Ukrainian President, and in that call, according to the situation room dictation/transcript, AFTER the Ukrainian President brought up Rudy Guiliani, Trump asked if they would re-open the investigation into Burisma, Biden's son, the previous administration and Ambassador who quashed the evidence, as well as CrowdStrike (which is owned by a Ukrainian) because they may have Hillary's server, and the circumstances around the firing of Shokin.

9. There was ZERO mention of money or holding back of funding/aide, therefore there was absolutely NO promise of quid pro quo, extortion, or even mild pressure. The Ukrainian President said they had already been investigating most of these things and are looking forward to getting all the information/evidence to Bill Barr and Rudy Guiliani, and cooperating with Bill Barrs already ongoing investigation into the Democrats attempts to pressure Ukraine into producing dirt on Trump during the 2016 election.

10. Somebody inside the IC, either a Dem plant or just some hyper-partisan leftover, who was reported, at first, to have physically listened in on the phone call, claimed that Trump pressured the Ukrainian President 8x to open an investigation into Joe Biden, made him some form of quid pro quo promise for doing so, and also threatened to hold back military aide if he didn't do this. All of which, it turns out, is completely false. Which makes some of us think this might have been a setup/trap laid by Team Trump. This individual claimed "whistleblower status" and reported this to the IC IG as a formal whistleblower complaint.

11. The IC IG, also an Obama holdover and former Clinton attorney, declared the complaint of great urgency and reported it to the OIG and DOJ. Both of which investigated the claims and found them fruitless and insignificant.

12. Then somebody, probably the IC IG or the clown whistleblower, leaked everything to the Dem leadership, and then somebody leaked it all to the media, full of lies, made up assumptions, false innuendo, loads of omissions that would have been bad for Biden and good for Trump, and wrapped in yet another bullshite packaged narrative for the Lefty MSM to propagandize and misinform the public.

13. Turns out, the "Whistleblower" never actually heard the phone conversation, they simply got bits and pieces of it 2nd or 3rd hand from the grapevine. But meanwhile, the House Democrats had a powwow and decided they don't care about the truth, they are going with this false narrative and opening an impeachment INQUIRY. Not formal impeachment proceedings, but simply the inquiry, which I guess is just more subpoenas and dragging people in front of committees to be harassed.

14. Trump released the transcript of the actual phone conversation and it's 100% innocuous and innocent of any of the false accusations. No quid pro quo promise. No pressure. No extortion to withhold aide. Just simple and typical leader to leader diplomacy. They acknowledged that Bill Barr is conducting an investigation, so he essentially asked him to please cooperate with the investigation. And after the Ukrainian President brought up Rudy Guiliani, Trump acknowledged that he is troubled by the situation surrounding Joe Biden and his son (remember, Rudy already has the evidence and Trump has seen it and knows the truth), so he merely agreed it would be a good idea to look into this situation some more. ZERO threats. ZERO pressure. ZERO quid pro quo.

15. The Left/Dems/MSM doesn't give a shite about the truth. Every headline says something like, "Trump pressures Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden", which is simply false and beyond dishonest. They refuse to cover the fact Biden extorted Ukraine and even publicly bragged about it on TV. Even going as far as openly lying and claiming there is no evidence Biden did anything.


And I guess that's about where we are so far.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
386 posts
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:31 pm to
Perfect. Mind if I copy for my use?
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