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re: Should Illegal Aliens count towards congressional representation?

Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:14 pm to
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Doesn’t that state have the right to say to the feds?, “If you won’t get rid of them, and they’re using our resources, we’re counting them for purposes of representation.”


What about the states like CA that enact sanctuary laws and twart the Fed from being able to find and deport said illegals?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:16 pm to
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What about the states like CA that enact sanctuary laws and twart the Fed from being able to find and deport said illegals?
Is that states doing that or cities doing that? Either way, what about them? That’s their way of playing this political game, and it isn’t the state’s job to do the feds’ job for them.

ETA: This issue is weird because it often gets “conservatives” siding with the federal government.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 11:18 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:05 am to
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What about the states like CA that enact sanctuary laws and twart the Fed from being able to find and deport said illegals?
I think it could make it even worse if they suddenly changed it so that these populations weren't counted.

At least now, everyone is counted the same. But imagine if the Ds get in power and have a chance to pass some immigration reform and pathway to citizenship. Don't you think they would do everything in their power to incentivize immigrants to come to their states and leave the R states then make it easier for immigrants to get citizenship in their states but harder in R (say be enrolled in college).

These figures are completely made up and probably extreme, but I want to show an unintended consequence by Ds some more political power by tying the appropriations to citizenship if they get the chance:

1. Say D states have a 4 million person advantage over (12 million to 8 million; 60%) if they counted illegal immigrants in the census for appropriations.

2.Then D states create incentives give them a larger advantage, say a 12 million person advantage (16 to 4; 75%) and get them in programs that will prepare them for citizenship in preparation for a pathway.

3. Then they pass a pathway to citizenship law that ensures 90% of the immigrants in D states (14.4 million) can easily attain citizenship compared to only 40% in R states (1.6 million). So now they not only have an even larger advantage than before (12.8 million compared to 4 million) they have a larger percentage as well (90% compared to 60%).
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