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140 GOP congressmen voted to allow 300K jobs to be taken away from US grads today

Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:05 pm
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GOP legislators (140) voted for a bill drafted by business groups and Democrats which provides a green card giveaway to 300,000 Indian contract workers and dramatically increases the incentives for more Indian graduates to take college graduate jobs in the United States.

The GOP’s House leader, Rep. Kevin McCarthy, voted for the giveaway to Indian outsourcing workers.

The bill also helps U.S. real-estate investors by extending the green-card giveaway to the Chinese leaders who use the EB-5 program to buy green cards for their families.


This is where you should be picking up the phone and screaming at your rep and senators.

There should be a massive push back against this.

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The Department of Homeland Security finally announced its opposition to the Senate’s version — S.386 — of the legislation, shortly before the House voted for the giveaway to Indian contract-workers and their U.S. employers:

The Department of Homeland Security does not support S. 386. The bill would do nothing to move the current employer-sponsored system toward a more merit-based system. The adverse effect on immigrant visa wait times for nationals of countries currently with lesser demand would be an obstacle to any potential plan to promote or increase immigration from countries who immigrants present reduced risk, such as Visa Waiver Program countries, or any other class of countries which the Administration may desire to provide preferential treatment (e.g., countries with which the U.S. has negotiated favorable trade deals).



The top GOP legislator on the House judiciary committee, Georgia Rep. Doug Collins, announced he would vote against the legislation because it did not go through a process of hearings and votes.

Whip Steve Scalise kept a low profile, and quietly voted against the measure.

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The Democrat bill includes no protections for American graduates — many of whom have large college debts — and it ignored alternative measures that would have reduced the companies’ ability to hire Indian outsourcing workers and also pay them with green cards.





OUTSOURCE the jobs and then claim the college debt can't be paid!

LINK

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:08 pm to
The Chinese employees, specifically, are a huge security risk. Chinese intelligence has completely penetrated academic research institutions, across the country, as well as much of the corporate world too.

And they steal everything they can get their hands on.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52839 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:08 pm to
Sex slush fund still under wraps too
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:09 pm to
figures the only thing to get "bipartisan" support is a bill to frick over US citizens for foreigners
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:10 pm to
Everybody should be on the phone tomorrow yelling...

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:12 pm to
Scalise, a computer scientist, voted against it.

You’d think that his peers would respect the former Majority Whip who has experience in this industry.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:12 pm to
I am Indian, have a PhD in ECE from LSU, I'm a professor in a public university ever since I graduated from LSU, hence I'm not a contract worker by any stretch of imagination.

Yet this bill will tremendously help me and people like me many of who
are doctors, professors, scientists etc. Will it help some Indians whom work in IT consulting firms... sure. but to say that it's only going to help people who are in IT jobs is a complete lie.

This article is a hack job which doesn't say anything about the real issues.

The per country quota is discriminatory. This is a step in the right direction.

Don't believe there article.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:15 pm to
I would be appalled if there weren’t spillover effects that created more jobs than lost.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Posted by gthog61 online on 7/10/19 at 10:09 pm to Jjdoc
figures the only thing to get "bipartisan" support is a bill to frick over US citizens for foreigners


This bill does not increase the total number of green cards that are giving out every year. All it does is it removes the per country quota and makes green card application first come first serve. So I'm not sure what are you talking about when you say this bill is going to frick over US citizens.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:18 pm to
Sounds like TRUMP needs to take out his veto pen.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50786 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:20 pm to
I just sent my congressman, Michael Burgess, proudly serving Texas' 26th Congressional District, my heartfelt thanks for his vote against this bill.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56523 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:22 pm to
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This is a step in the right direction.


In your estimation, what is the most correct direction?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:22 pm to
These Indians are the real Americans.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
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Yet this bill will tremendously help me and people like me many of who
are doctors, professors, scientists etc.



Yet I want to help American citizens born and raised here.

With all due respect to you, when my congressmen are telling me we have to pay more money to bail out student debt and then they turn around and outsource American jobs then you better believe I don't give 2 cents about helping people of other nations.

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This article is a hack job which doesn't say anything about the real issues.


It says EVERYTHING about the real issues. It's an outsourcing bill. Period.. full stop.

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The per country quota is discriminatory.


The people of the world is NOT entitled to come here. NO, it's not discriminatory.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:24 pm to
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The per country quota is discriminatory.


I'd like to see it go back to 1924.

How about those apples.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:25 pm to
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Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy voted for the giveaway, which provides a fast-track to green cards for 300,000 Indian contract-workers and 300,000 of their family members who choose to stay and work in the United States after their work visas expired. They were allowed to stay once their employers nominated them for green cards. 


This party of the article is absolutely false. There is no fast track.

Just to give you some perspective, my employer has filed my green card 10 years back and I'm still waiting.

In these 10 years every green card that has been filed for a citizen who is not from India on China has already been approved. So think about it this way, a person in Iceland who was a middle school student when my green card was filed, could have finished their middle and high school, followed by college in USA, started working, got their Green card filed and approved before mine was approved.

This bill tries to address that issue.
Posted by ewdij
LSU
Member since Jun 2006
1363 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:28 pm to
quote:


I'd like to see it go back to 1924. 

How about those apples.


And I am sure many native Americans would like to see it go back to 1492.

So what exactly is your point?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:29 pm to
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This bill does not increase the total number of green cards that are giving out every year. All it does is it removes the per country quota and makes green card application first come first serve. So I'm not sure what are you talking about when you say this bill is going to frick over US citizens.


You have a college education. Do you understand math?

When you allow foreigners to come in and take jobs, that means American citizens don't get them. It's simple math.


As to the "IT" comment. Had you read the article:

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The legislation offers roughly 75,000 extra green cards per year to encourage Indian graduates to become contract workers in the United States.

Indian graduates use the H-1B visa program and the Optional Practical Training program to seek low-wage job offers for U.S. white-collar jobs that are also sought by the 800,000 Americans who graduate from college each year with new degrees in healthcare, engineering, business, science, math, computers or science.



Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:30 pm to
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In these 10 years every green card that has been filed for a citizen who is not from India on China has already been approved.


Over a billion screaming Chinamen and over a billion screaming Indians. Many of whom are trying to come here. You are taking about vetting people from a country of billions vs vetting a person from a country with a population less than most US cities.

NO frickING shite ITS TAKING LONGER
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:31 pm to
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In these 10 years every green card that has been filed for a citizen who is not from India on China has already been approved. So think about it this way, a person in Iceland who was a middle school student when my green card was filed, could have finished their middle and high school, followed by college in USA, started working, got their Green card filed and approved before mine was approved.


I don't have a problem with this.
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