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re: Let's Talk About The Great Great Rafael Nadal
Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:49 am to MidnightVibe
Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:49 am to MidnightVibe
Rafa is an incredible tennis player who will go down as one of the best male tennis players of all time, no question. However, in my personal opinion, Roger Federer holds the edge for career achievement and overall prowess.
Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):
Roger Federer
-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles
Rafael Nadal
-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles
Head-to-Head
-Rafa leads 24-15 all time
If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is
Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):
Roger Federer
-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles
Rafael Nadal
-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles
Head-to-Head
-Rafa leads 24-15 all time
If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is
Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:55 am to RebelTheBear
He makes the French Open horrible to watch. Everyone knows he is going to win it going away unless Djokovic can do his thing. Otherwise, it is a beatdown every time.
Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:26 am to RebelTheBear
quote:Worst way to judge them
Head-to-Head
-Rafa leads 24-15 all time
41% of their matches were played on clay. Think about that. Only 8% of their matches were played on Feds best surface of grass
Lets break it down and try to make it equitable
Clay nadal leads 14-2 87.5% win pct for nadal
Hard fed leads 11-9 55% win pct for fed
Grass fed leads 2-1 66.7% win pct for fed
They played 39 times. Lets assume they had an even distribution of matches played on all surfaces and kept the same winning pct. It would look like this
Clay- Nadal leads 11-2
Hard-Fed leads 7-6
Grass-Fed leads 9-4
Overall it would be 21-18 for Nadal
Fed and Nadal are also separated by 5 years. Thats a pretty sizable gap for tennis that nobody seems to care about when it comes to this
Ultimate opinion. Fed is the greatest overall player and greatest grass court player
Nadal is the greatest clay court player and third best overall player
Djok is the second greatest overall player
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/13/19 at 11:24 pm to RebelTheBear
quote:
Rafa is an incredible tennis player who will go down as one of the best male tennis players of all time, no question. However, in my personal opinion, Roger Federer holds the edge for career achievement and overall prowess.
Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):
Roger Federer
-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles
Rafael Nadal
-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles
Head-to-Head
-Rafa leads 24-15 all time
If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is
I didn't intend for this to be a Rafa v. Fed thread, though perhaps it was unavoidable for it to go in that direction.
That being said: I'll simply offer up that the Smug v. Rafa argument is objectively very arguable. As in, notwithstanding the fact that I love me some Rafa, any adherence to intellectual honesty would dictate a conclusion that solid cases can be made on both sides.
Oh, but man if Rafa would have held on in that '17 aussie final....
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