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re: Let's Talk About The Great Great Rafael Nadal

Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:49 am to
Posted by RebelTheBear
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:49 am to
Rafa is an incredible tennis player who will go down as one of the best male tennis players of all time, no question. However, in my personal opinion, Roger Federer holds the edge for career achievement and overall prowess.

Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):

Roger Federer

-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles

Rafael Nadal

-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles

Head-to-Head

-Rafa leads 24-15 all time

If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is
Posted by RedHawk
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 8:55 am to
He makes the French Open horrible to watch. Everyone knows he is going to win it going away unless Djokovic can do his thing. Otherwise, it is a beatdown every time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Head-to-Head

-Rafa leads 24-15 all time
Worst way to judge them

41% of their matches were played on clay. Think about that. Only 8% of their matches were played on Feds best surface of grass


Lets break it down and try to make it equitable


Clay nadal leads 14-2 87.5% win pct for nadal

Hard fed leads 11-9 55% win pct for fed

Grass fed leads 2-1 66.7% win pct for fed

They played 39 times. Lets assume they had an even distribution of matches played on all surfaces and kept the same winning pct. It would look like this


Clay- Nadal leads 11-2

Hard-Fed leads 7-6

Grass-Fed leads 9-4

Overall it would be 21-18 for Nadal


Fed and Nadal are also separated by 5 years. Thats a pretty sizable gap for tennis that nobody seems to care about when it comes to this




Ultimate opinion. Fed is the greatest overall player and greatest grass court player

Nadal is the greatest clay court player and third best overall player

Djok is the second greatest overall player
This post was edited on 6/13/19 at 10:28 am
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Rafa is an incredible tennis player who will go down as one of the best male tennis players of all time, no question. However, in my personal opinion, Roger Federer holds the edge for career achievement and overall prowess.

Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):

Roger Federer

-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles

Rafael Nadal

-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles

Head-to-Head

-Rafa leads 24-15 all time

If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is


I didn't intend for this to be a Rafa v. Fed thread, though perhaps it was unavoidable for it to go in that direction.

That being said: I'll simply offer up that the Smug v. Rafa argument is objectively very arguable. As in, notwithstanding the fact that I love me some Rafa, any adherence to intellectual honesty would dictate a conclusion that solid cases can be made on both sides.

Oh, but man if Rafa would have held on in that '17 aussie final....
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