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also, your thread indirectly celebrates Fed's amazing career as the GOAT b/c but-for the freakshow of Nadal on clay, he'd have even more majors (b/c Fed was the undisputed #2 on clay for large parts of Nadal's career)

I don't think I'm following your logic. Every player would win every tournament but for those players that happen to be better than them.

Are you giving Nadal credit for the 2006 and 2007 Wimbledon titles as well? Can we toss in 2011 Wimbledon as well? Because nobody was beating Djoker that year.

Should I stop there? Or does the silliness of your point require further illustration?

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 6/13/19 at 5:40 am to MidnightVibe

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Every player would win every tournament but for those players that happen to be better than them.

but Nadal wasn't better than Fed overall (look at the hardware). however, he had this incredible idiosyncrasy on clay that shut out an entire generation and a half of elite players on the surface. that includes Fed, who was the undisputed #2 on clay for much of Nadal's career

basically Fed's legacy was tarnished a bit by a freak show with outlier results on one surface. like running into an autistic specialist of some game/skill who can't do anything else in life well but can't be beaten at that one skill

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Posted by RebelTheBear

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Posted on 6/13/19 at 7:49 am to MidnightVibe

Rafa is an incredible tennis player who will go down as one of the best male tennis players of all time, no question. However, in my personal opinion, Roger Federer holds the edge for career achievement and overall prowess.

Let's compare their resumes (I'm not going to include their doubles resumes because they're basically the same):

Roger Federer

-Professional Record: 1207-264 (82.1%)
-Career Prize Money: $124,293,122 (second all time)
-Career Titles: 101 (second in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 6 Australian Opens, 1 Roland-Garros, 8 Wimbledons, 5 US Opens (for a total of 20 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Doubles, Silver in 2012 Singles

Rafael Nadal

-Professional Record: 951-185 (83%)
-Career Prize Money: $109,533,646 (third all time)
-Career Titles: 82 (fourth in the Open Era)
-Grand Slam Singles: 1 Australian Open, 12 French Opens, 2 Wimbledons, 3 US Opens (for a total of 18 Singles Grand Slam Titles)
-Olympic Medals: Gold in 2008 Singles, Gold in 2016 Doubles

Head-to-Head

-Rafa leads 24-15 all time

If you want a more detailed h2h breakdown, here it is

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