re: American Chamber of Commerce in South China "US companies leaving China"

Why cant you just answer a simple question?

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Look man I B Chinaman asks the questions around here Mister!

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Its amazing how easy it is to trap the dumbarses

Communist

You are correct

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You’re assuming Trump will not win the trade war. Canada

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Uhh I am saying you will see the tariffs in the list of goods he says he wants to tariff.

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Canada, Mexico, NATO, and the EU say he does

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What are you trying to say?

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Now China has a history of choosing poorly. Mao, the Cultural Revolution, the one child policy, Tiananmen Square, not curbing the nuclear aspirations of their attack dog North Korea, building artificial islands to steal from their neighbors, The Belt and Road Initiative to dominate the world, and making Xi the Fascist Dictator for Life. Therefore there is an excellent chance that they will choose suicide by trade war.

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You may be on to something there. You understand of course that nothing you mention there is a part of the tariff war?

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There are numerous countries hoping for American trade

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You understand that this is about access to the massive Chinese domestic market right? That American companies want to invest and expand sales in China and want IP protection and more financial choice when they do?

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See the post above yours.

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So you didn't understand what I am asking for?

I am asking because China is absorbing the majority of the current tariff costs though currency devaluation and subsidy . . . as we have discussed previously.

Do your sources indicate the CPC has maxed out that capacity?

Regardless, to the extent there are less expensive alternatives than Chinese goods at a 110% - 125% pricepoint, supply chains will be switched.

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Uhh I am saying you will see the tariffs in the list of goods he says he wants to tariff.

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AGAIN, that is at best only partly true.

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Regardless, to the extent there are less expensive alternatives than Chinese goods at a 110% - 125% pricepoint, supply chains will be switc

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No one is disputing that. They will be switched if they can be switched.

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I am asking because China is absorbing the majority of the current tariff costs though currency devaluation and subsidy . . . as we have discussed previously.

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All those held still the tariffs are still adding to the cost but your post highlights a Chinese advantage in the trade war. Their currency reserves act as sort of cushion for them in terms of currency valuations. If they devalue the RMB for example then their dollar holdings can be used for more subsidies in RMB. Does that make sense?

Home Depot said in their conference call that the proposed tariffs will result in $1 billion in increased annual cost.

Look there are no winners in trade wars. None.

The idea we should hurt ourselves simply to hurt China more is crazy.

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The idea we should hurt ourselves simply to hurt China more is crazy.

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fricking beautiful in it's stupidity.

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You understand that this is about access to the massive Chinese domestic market right? That American companies want to invest and expand sales in China and want IP protection and more financial choice when they do?

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Um, there was no massive Chinese domestic market until they started selling to the massive American domestic market. Now the American market started to diminish because of not fair trade. But when other countries step up and take China’s place in the American market, their market will develop for fair-free American trade. Of course Chinese domestic markets will proportionally diminish and become less important behind Chinese trade barriers.
THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!

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quote: Canada, Mexico, NATO, and the EU say he does What are you trying to say?

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That Canada and Mexico renegotiated nafta to usmc under Trump pressure, NATO nations agreed to start paying their fair and agreed upon share under Trump pressure, the EU has agreed to renegotiate trade under Trump pressure, THEREFORE, it is a reasonable assumption that China will bend the knee to the pressure of the Magnificent Orange SOB too. Surprised you needed that spelled out.

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You may be on to something there. You understand of course that nothing you mention there is a part of the tariff war?

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Yes it actually does. The correct Chinese choice is free and fair access to the American market in exchange for free and fair access of America to the Chinese market. But there is no assurance that they will choose wisely based upon their past history.

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You understand that this is about access to the massive Chinese domestic market right? That American companies want to invest and expand sales in China and want IP protection and more financial choice when they do?

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Exactly!
Toss in a few essential items like no more currency manipulation and normal legal protection in a fair judicial system and you get FREE AND FAIR TRADE!