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re: In all seriousness, this all thanks to AD right?

Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:25 am to
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12727 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:25 am to
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Nothing Klutch did was wrong IMO if their goal is to get their client away from a crappy franchise while he is in their prime. And it was a crappy franchise.

I don't get how people don't see this clearly yet. They know all the pieces but don't connect them properly. I am guessing it is because emotion is involved


Yeah difference between getting him out of NOLA and “Lakers (and maybe NY) or bust”. All is well that ends well, but this 20/20 Klutch Sports hindsight defense from you is comical.

I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for going after the leader of Crewz Talk, but your arse is having some wacky arse takes today from defending Klutch in this manner to arguing for keeping a non extended AD into the season.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:30 am to
And what do you know about them other than the takes you have heard from witty Twitter people?

I know, for instance, Griffin really respects Rich Paul. Not just when he speaks in public, but behind the scenes. I know Rich Paul has done some things for clients that has actually gone against what is best for Lebron. So, he doesn't just do everything with Lebron in mind.

I just don't see how you guys all acknowledge how much better the franchise is now, yet can't seem to wrap your head around how bad AD should've wanted out, no matter what it took. You must be blocked by emotion because there is no logical connection you can make between those points
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61680 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 11:36 am to
I could buy the defense if I thought Klutch did what they did for AD. The timing says to me they did what they did for LeBron. The Pels benefitted from it, they were the agent of change we needed, but this is still the same agency that miscalculated terribly on how much leverage Norris Cole had, and tried to force AD to Lakers when it was obvious they had no realistic shot at it working.

Pretty much every “good move” they’ve made for their clients has been to take advantage of leverage LeBron had. I really don’t see them as a typical agency doing typical agent things for players. That doesn’t necessarily make them a villain in my eyes, but it does affect how they do business which needs to be taken into account.
Posted by PuddinheadSr
Member since May 2016
283 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 12:10 pm to
I'm really having a problem figuring out what the ultimate goal is for some of the "trade his arse" crowd. If it's to win a championship, it seems to me that even a "show me" AD (if it's an AD playing in all-in mode) teamed with Jrue and Zion gets you closer than does, IMO, than would most of the trade packages I've seen speculated upon here and elsewhere. I say this because it's always seemed to me that historically speaking the assets gained in trades seem to pan out as envisioned less than half of the time. I have no statistical data to back this up beyond 40+ years following the Association, so we certainly have room (or gray area, if you're not one of the black-or-white absolutists) to argue percentages. But I've seen way too many folks who overvalue the asset they don't have while undervaluing that which they already have. Those two birds in the shrub in the next yard with the really healthy lawn and all that.
Of course, if the real goal is to show AD who's boss, then by all means proceed.
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