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Early Extension fixes
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:04 am
I've been struggling with EE for 15 years or so.
I look back and wonder why none of my instructors brought it to my attention.
I do vaguely remember Tracy Phillips, out of Tulsa, mentioned a dip in my left shoulder during the take away resulting in a lifting, of my body, during my down swing. Thus causing EE. He never really knew how to convey a way of fixing it.
I started to focus on removing the dip on my take away, and succeeded, but it didn't remove the lifting and resulting EE in the down swing.
I've never been so frustrated with correcting a swing issue. I know what I want my swing to do in my mind, but it's like my body wont let me.
Lee Trevino said it best.. "there are flippers and there are strikers of the golf ball" I'm tired of being a damn flipper. You lose so much power and you have to rely on way too much hand eye coordination and timing.
There are a ton of videos on youtube that have so called "fixes" that never work. Specifically ones about resting your butt on a chair and using that as a tool to stay down and back rather than lift in the downswing.
I did, however, come across this video last night. I love the thought process behind it, and I plan on hitting the range ASAP to test it out. Let me know your thoughts.
Early Extension fix - Youtube
I look back and wonder why none of my instructors brought it to my attention.
I do vaguely remember Tracy Phillips, out of Tulsa, mentioned a dip in my left shoulder during the take away resulting in a lifting, of my body, during my down swing. Thus causing EE. He never really knew how to convey a way of fixing it.
I started to focus on removing the dip on my take away, and succeeded, but it didn't remove the lifting and resulting EE in the down swing.
I've never been so frustrated with correcting a swing issue. I know what I want my swing to do in my mind, but it's like my body wont let me.
Lee Trevino said it best.. "there are flippers and there are strikers of the golf ball" I'm tired of being a damn flipper. You lose so much power and you have to rely on way too much hand eye coordination and timing.
There are a ton of videos on youtube that have so called "fixes" that never work. Specifically ones about resting your butt on a chair and using that as a tool to stay down and back rather than lift in the downswing.
I did, however, come across this video last night. I love the thought process behind it, and I plan on hitting the range ASAP to test it out. Let me know your thoughts.
Early Extension fix - Youtube
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:06 am to razorbackfan4life
This is a great example of early extension, and similar to how I look at impact.
This is, more or less, the position I want to be in at impact.
This is, more or less, the position I want to be in at impact.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:50 am to razorbackfan4life
Face a wall without a club and cross your arms on your chest. Get in address position with your forehead slightly touching the wall. Now make a swing without your head leaving the wall or sliding up the wall until after impact. Feel what your hips and legs must do to make that happen.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:11 am to razorbackfan4life
Plenty of videos on YouTube from golf pros like Peter Finch, Chris Ryan, Clay Ballard, Me and My Golf, etc.
Nevermind. I see you mentioned those. Should have read your full post before replying.
Nevermind. I see you mentioned those. Should have read your full post before replying.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 1:04 pm to razorbackfan4life
You need more force across the shaft at impact
Posted on 5/5/19 at 1:34 pm to TheMailman
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You need more force across the shaft at impact
Can you expand on this a little? Thanks
Posted on 5/5/19 at 1:36 pm to Tyga Woods
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Face a wall without a club and cross your arms on your chest. Get in address position with your forehead slightly touching the wall. Now make a swing without your head leaving the wall or sliding up the wall until after impact. Feel what your hips and legs must do to make that happen.
I could see that helping with the feel. It's just so programmed into my swing that I need to physically feel it thru hitting a ball.
I can take a slow mo swing and have everything perfect, but soon as I try to hit a ball it all reverts.
In my mind I feel if I can get it full speed one time I can can repeat it from then on. It's just so damn hard to successfully do it.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 4:27 pm to razorbackfan4life
Put the ball way forward in your stance...outside your front foot. Practice until you can hit the ball solid and decently at your target.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:00 pm to razorbackfan4life
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I can take a slow mo swing and have everything perfect, but soon as I try to hit a ball it all reverts.
In my mind I feel if I can get it full speed one time I can can repeat it from then on. It's just so damn hard to successfully do it.
People don't early extend for no reason. You are most likely really steep in the downswing. Your brain forces you to stand up because if you didn't you'd probably bury the club in the ground behind the ball or have a really open or closed clubface at impact. Standing up shallows the club. Next time at the range, feel like your chest gets closer to the ground during transition and the early downswing. It will force your body to turn instead of standing up. The first move in the downswing should be the lead shoulder going LOWER for a split second.
You're standing up because you have to in order to make somewhat decent contact.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:53 am to razorbackfan4life
"Early extension"?
Call it what it is. You're a dirty goat fricker.
In all seriousness it can be a bitch to fix. I develop shanks with my wedges because of really bad goat fricking and took years to get out of it completely. Not sure exactly what I did
Call it what it is. You're a dirty goat fricker.
In all seriousness it can be a bitch to fix. I develop shanks with my wedges because of really bad goat fricking and took years to get out of it completely. Not sure exactly what I did
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:47 pm to Tyga Woods
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People don't early extend for no reason. You are most likely really steep in the downswing. Your brain forces you to stand up because if you didn't you'd probably bury the club in the ground behind the ball or have a really open or closed clubface at impact. Standing up shallows the club. Next time at the range, feel like your chest gets closer to the ground during transition and the early downswing. It will force your body to turn instead of standing up. The first move in the downswing should be the lead shoulder going LOWER for a split second.
You're standing up because you have to in order to make somewhat decent contact.
Yes, hopefully I can apply this motion successfully.
I will probably freak out once I make the proper transition, even if I hit it super fat. That's how much I want to get rid of this evil.
I mean hell I got to a 5 handicap when I was in high school with this swing problem. Imagine what I could get to without it.
I will take these thoughts and practices to the range and film it to double check.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:47 pm to rolltide32
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Call it what it is. You're a dirty goat fricker.
Been humping that goat for a long time
And I had the same issues with my wedges as well. It even creeped up into my irons for a little while.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:50 pm to LSUERDOC
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Put the ball way forward in your stance...outside your front foot. Practice until you can hit the ball solid and decently at your target.
I will try this as well. I like the idea of placing the ball out in front in order to get my shoulders/hips moving properly. At least get the feel of it.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 12:24 pm to razorbackfan4life
Well first attempt at the range was an utter failure.
This is going to take A LOT of work. I may end up seeing an instructor for an extra set of eyes and advice.
You mentioned earlier that I might be too steep, but actually its the opposite. I'm too shallow coming down. In my mind, from watching a few swings of my own I, think my rotation, around the spine, isn't there in the downswing. Also there is a slight cast at the top because of the lack of rotation.
I have to figure out a way to rotate then extend at the proper time.
This is going to take A LOT of work. I may end up seeing an instructor for an extra set of eyes and advice.
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Tyga Woods
You mentioned earlier that I might be too steep, but actually its the opposite. I'm too shallow coming down. In my mind, from watching a few swings of my own I, think my rotation, around the spine, isn't there in the downswing. Also there is a slight cast at the top because of the lack of rotation.
I have to figure out a way to rotate then extend at the proper time.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 2:41 pm to razorbackfan4life
Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:29 am to razorbackfan4life
Was hoping someone could share there thoughts on what they see in my video.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:02 pm to razorbackfan4life
Just saw this.
You are shallow because standing up is a shallowing compensation for steep movements. Early extension shallows the club so you don’t bury it in the ground. Then you cast/flip your wrists because if they didn’t you’d wiff because your arms/chest are farther from the ball than you were at setup because you are now standing up instead of bent over. Hope this makes sense.
Your right shoulder works down too much too soon in the downswing. Right shoulder crashes into your side and standing up is the only way you can get to the ball. You need to feel like the right shoulder works a little more out. Will probably feel over the top but as long as your head doesn't get in front of the ball it will be fine.
Take a broom stick or something similar and place it across your chest. AT the top of the backswing it should point somewhere near the extended ball-target line and the same goes in the downswing and at impact. See what kind of feels you get out of that.
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You mentioned earlier that I might be too steep, but actually its the opposite. I'm too shallow coming down
You are shallow because standing up is a shallowing compensation for steep movements. Early extension shallows the club so you don’t bury it in the ground. Then you cast/flip your wrists because if they didn’t you’d wiff because your arms/chest are farther from the ball than you were at setup because you are now standing up instead of bent over. Hope this makes sense.
Your right shoulder works down too much too soon in the downswing. Right shoulder crashes into your side and standing up is the only way you can get to the ball. You need to feel like the right shoulder works a little more out. Will probably feel over the top but as long as your head doesn't get in front of the ball it will be fine.
Take a broom stick or something similar and place it across your chest. AT the top of the backswing it should point somewhere near the extended ball-target line and the same goes in the downswing and at impact. See what kind of feels you get out of that.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:13 pm to Tyga Woods
Pretty much the same point in the swing. Notice how much more out Tiger’s right shoulder has worked vs yours? Also, his chest is pointed at an angle towards the ground, yours is pointed closer to the horizon.
At the start of the downswing you need to feel your left shoulder work down a little while the right is working out and down. Your right shoulder crashing into your side forces you to stand up.
Shaun Webb-AMG
Watch this entire video 3 times. Pay attention to what the left shoulder is supposed to do and what that correct movement allows the right shoulder to do. Will probably feel like an over the top move at first but it’s not. You’ll also feel so much closer to the ground and a bunch more pressure in your lower body.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:51 pm to Tyga Woods
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Tyga Woods
Thanks man. It's kind of funny I saw Lisa Cornwell tweet a video of her swing yesterday with the caption " When you’ve been “stuck” your entire life, this feels “over the top.” And she hits it perfect.
So maybe I could use that feeling, of coming over the top, to get my shoulders and hips moving correctly.
I will always have an inside takeaway. I can't force myself to take the club away on plane. Feels very restrictive to me, but I can get back on plane at the top.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:59 pm to razorbackfan4life
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So maybe I could use that feeling, of coming over the top, to get my shoulders and hips moving correctly.
Just watch the video I linked...it will help a lot. You will feel like you're going to hit a huge slice or pull it a mile left, but you won't. Your top of the backswing position isn’t bad. You can play good golf from there
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 1:08 pm
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