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re: Is Captain Marvel a Mary Sue?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:01 am to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:01 am to TheeRealCarolina
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Because Hollywood can’t write good female role models
Most writers do seem to be too lazy or too stupid to write the parts. It seems to just be "this is a woman and she's awesome because she's a woman". End of character bio.
But when these women first graced the screen no one gave a shite that they were women because they have deep character development and worlds built around them and they are iconic in some of the all time greatest action and adventure movies:
Sara Conner
Ellen Ripley
Princess Leia
Trinity
Leeloo
Uma in Kill Bill
Furiosa
It's very possible to write a bad arse female lead in an action movie and it's infuriating when someone acts like women have never been represented in action roles.
Terminator and Aliens are two of the most iconic action movies of all time both centered around female leads.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:25 am to Nguyener
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Sara Conner
Ellen Ripley
Princess Leia
Trinity
Leeloo
Uma in Kill Bill
Furiosa
With the exception of Leia and Leeloo, these are very single-minded focus, badass characters, but most aren't very complex.
Not defending CM, but I will point out that most of what you guys are arguing for in well-written female characters are just bad-asses in action movies you otherwise liked. I think Carol Danvers is given more characterization than Uma in the first Kill Bill, though it's nowhere near as good a movie.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 9:47 am to Nguyener
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Sara Conner
Ellen Ripley
Princess Leia
Trinity
Leeloo
Uma in Kill Bill
Furiosa
It's very possible to write a bad arse female lead in an action movie and it's infuriating when someone acts like women have never been represented in action roles.
There are some great characters in there, but I think at least 3 of them are not the lead characters in the movies they were in. (I say at least three because I don't know who Furiosa is).
Posted on 4/20/19 at 1:28 pm to Nguyener
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Sara Conner
Ellen Ripley
Princess Leia
Trinity
Leeloo
Uma in Kill Bill
Furiosa
Trinity and Leeloo both ended up relying on a strong male to bail them out.
I never got the woman power in Fury Road. I thought Hardy took away from that.
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