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Posted on 4/8/19 at 6:22 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 6:22 am
You guys see any issues here?

PCPartPicker

quote:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($294.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: MSI - CORE FROZR L 71.27 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($225.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($184.44 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card
Case: Fractal Design - Define S2 Gunmetal – TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($161.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.90 @ OutletPC)

Total: $1146.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-08 07:21 EDT-0400
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:03 am to
Is this solely for gaming?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Is this solely for gaming?


Not entirely. I'm also going to be doing some encoding and having at least 1 VM running fairly often, hence the extra memory.

Also going to be seeding a lot, which is why I have the large HDD for now. Eventually I'll put a RAID in there if I don't build a server.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:17 am to
Sounds like you'll be doing some Plex. They've been having some really good 2700/b470 combo deals recently. I would recommend that over the 2700x since I don't know if you want to deal with OCing and higher power costs on a 24/7 machine

Edit: also know you'll be limited to only solo player games since most anti cheat clients block people running on VMs
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 7:20 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:36 am to
Yeah, definitely going to be using Plex.

I picked the higher end board due to it being more ready for Ryzen 3000 down the road. I'll probably use the 2700 for quite a while until the prices on the 3000's drop a bit or they have some good sales.

I think I'm going to start the process of learning to OC stuff as well.

I primarily play single player only anyway, but I won't be playing games on the VM. It's for something else entirely.

Thank you for thoughts. Do mine make sense?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:47 am to
quote:

but I won't be playing games on the VM. It's for something else entirely.


How do you plan on doing this? Using a linux distro as your main OS and then running containers? Windows 10 and Hyper-V?

I never liked running windows 10 and hyper v as my hypervisor. I always prefer ESXi or Proxmox or as a last resort linux and dockers
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 7:50 am to
Much simpler than that. Just using VirtualBox and running it when I need it going. It won't be on all the time. The main OS will be Windows 10 LTSB.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

Windows 10 LTSB


Very nice. Drivers can be a bitch with this though, watch out. I deployed it over windows 10 pro at my previous job and it can be quirky sometimes, but I loved how light it is compared to typical windows 10
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 9:27 am to
I never had an issue using it on my laptop. I think the new one is 2019 LTSC. They changed the name for some reason. I'll be having to install all my drivers anyway, right?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 10:03 am to
The 2700x seems expensive. Is it really that much right now?

Don't know much about MSI coolers but Noctua are great.

Why A Vega card? Why not something like a RTX?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 10:12 am to
quote:

I think the new one is 2019 LTSC. They changed the name for some reason. I'll be having to install all my drivers anyway, right?


It's probably been a year since I've worked with it, so it might be better. I just know that since it's such a stripped down version of windows, some drivers just don't work as well as plain windows 10 pro/home/etc. Like intel graphic drivers were fricking stupid sometimes
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 11:07 am to
I've been pleased with it.

So does the build look pretty good then? I'm pleased with, think I finally found the video card and combination of parts that I like.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:30 pm to
I would still go with a 2700 and mobo combo like this one for the same price as that 2700x

and I'm not a huge fan of the Vega 56 choice since the 1660 and 1660 ti are probably cheaper
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:38 pm to
I'd aim for something like this

quote:

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($200.00)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.98)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($158.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card ($279.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1138.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-08 14:38 EDT-0400


Will be more efficient and quieter than the build you posted, probably with a little more power due to the 1660 ti
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
884 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:51 pm to
I would recommend going with a faster spinning drive or a smaller (than 6 TB) ssd, if necessary. That 5400rpm drive is going to be a bottleneck for most anything you do with it, IMHO.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 1:52 pm to
That build is probably gonna be like 500 cheaper too. I think his build before didn't have prices for a few things.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

That 5400rpm drive is going to be a bottleneck for most anything you do with it, IMHO.


It'll likely be a mass storage drive for Plex, so speed doesn't make all too much of a difference
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:41 pm to
Yeah, it's for mass storage so no big deal. You sure the 2060 is better? I've been reading the Vega can hold it's own with and and do better if you flash the 64 bios.

So can I overclock the 2700 and reach the same as the 2700x?
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

So can I overclock the 2700 and reach the same as the 2700x?


Maybe throw in a beefier cooler and I've seen people on reddit claim they hit 3.9-4.0
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/8/19 at 3:28 pm to
How about this incorporating some of your ideas?

quote:

PCPartPicker part list: LINK Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($224.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: MSI - CORE FROZR L 71.27 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($190.20 @ Walmart)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card
Case: Fractal Design - Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)

Total: $1019.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-08 16:46 EDT-0400


That would knock the total price down to 1354.61 with the Vega included.

Vega56 vs 1060ti

That's what I'm basing that off of, plus I'm kind of getting into the AMD/MSI theme on this thing for whatever reason.

The old build comes to 1658.42, so that would save me $303.81.

ETA: The motherboard. I really wanted the B450 Pro Carbon to begin with, however it is never in stock anywhere. I figure to pay a little more now on that part but will be able to use it again for much longer down the road if I upgrade to the 3000. As lame as it might seem, the aesthetics of the pro carbon looks a lot better. That other board is just too much looks-wise.
This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 4:12 pm
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