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re: Do you worry that Medicare for all could potentially happen? Not a joking matter

Posted on 4/5/19 at 1:40 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 1:40 am to
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it happens within next 5-10 years, I could potentially take a huge financial hit


Are you seriously asking for sympathy while simultaneously giving none out? Lol. You guys are silly
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 1:57 am to
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Are you seriously asking for sympathy while simultaneously giving none out? Lol. You guys are silly


Sorry , but hardworking taxpayers are tired of taking care of lazy asses and people who make bad decisions.

Buy your own healthcare.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 2:05 am to
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Sorry , but hardworking taxpayers are tired of taking care of lazy asses and people who make bad decisions.


I love the justifications you guys come up with just so you don't have to care about anyone. Do you really think all of those people who can't afford their own Healthcare are just simply lazy? Do you honestly think that? Take a minute to look at yourself in the mirror and kind of reflect on that.

Life is all we have. At the end of the day money is just paper and we can make more but you never get a chance to live again. Honestly this isn't really worth an argument because you should have already been taught from a young age what empathy and learned how to work as a team in society. Really just generally giving a shite is something good parents teach
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 2:18 am to
The best thing we could do is to adopt the Canadian system.
It works no matter how many lies are spread by idiots here in the states.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:26 am to
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Life is all we have. At the end of the day money is just paper and we can make more but you never get a chance to live again. Honestly this isn't really worth an argument because you should have already been taught for me young age what empathy is learned how to work as a team in society. Really just generally giving a shite is something good parents teach


The difference between conservatives and progressives is the ability to seperate facts from feelings. Liberals just can’t do it. Their shortsighted feelings get in the way of evaluating a policy on a factual basis. Government involvement has never made a sector more efficient/effective. Why would it help one of the most complicated and expensive sectors of the economy?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 6:07 am to
Unless Obamacare is repealed, it's inevitable.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32395 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 6:24 am to
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Life is all we have. At the end of the day money is just paper and we can make more but you never get a chance to live again. Honestly this isn't really worth an argument because you should have already been taught for me young age what empathy is learned how to work as a team in society. Really just generally giving a shite is something good parents teach
So if it comes down to a family putting food on the table at Christmas vs buying the kids a pony, you buy the pony because it's the only life your kids have. Emotion vs pragmatism is an ocean apart with the liberals. What part of $30T does the liberal not understand. Even your Queen B Pelosi says we can't afford it. Geez, you people are dense.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68456 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 7:28 am to
Not to mention the quality of healthcare will suffer as well. Enjoy waiting weeks and weeks for an appointment and then another several weeks for scans and more involved diagnostic procedures, while your condition progresses or even metasticizes.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68456 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 7:33 am to
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The best thing we could do is to adopt the Canadian system.
It works no matter how many lies are spread by idiots here in the states.

My Canadian neighbor who lived his first thirty years in Canada laughs at this statement.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19274 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 7:36 am to
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The difference between conservatives and progressives is the ability to seperate facts from feelings. Liberals just can’t do it. Their shortsighted feelings get in the way of evaluating a policy on a factual basis. Government involvement has never made a sector more efficient/effective. Why would it help one of the most complicated and expensive sectors of the economy?
Yep, KneelandBlow just doesn't get it. Perhaps she would like to give up her money to ensure this happens? It's just paper, right? Most people are taught to work hard and do their best. Unfortunately, that is not the case for some. She has no clue what it would be like yet she wants everyone to just throw away their hard earned money and time for others that are either A) too lazy to better THEMSELVES or B) too stupid to better themselves. I loved that ridiculousness of the last line "Really just generally giving a shite is something good parents teach". That's comical coming from her. The one's giving a shite aren't the one's with the problem. It's those who champion mediocrity and make excuses for people instead of holding them accountable.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 10:25 am to
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I love the justifications you guys come up with just so you don't have to care about anyone. Do you really think all of those people who can't afford their own Healthcare are just simply lazy? Do you honestly think that? Take a minute to look at yourself in the mirror and kind of reflect on that.


Funny how you only commented on the lazy arse part , but not the bad decisions part.

Good parents teach personal responsibility.

Absentee Fathers and single moms who fail to teach their children about personal responsibility are the real issues.

Find a job that offers healthcare. Of course that means you might have to work nights , weekends and do manual labor.

People want to work certain hours , days and to not break a sweat.

frick that !
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 10:30 am to
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TGFN57


Loser
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:15 pm to
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The difference between conservatives and progressives is the ability to seperate facts from feelings. Liberals just can’t do it. Their shortsighted feelings get in the way of evaluating a policy on a factual basis. Government involvement has never made a sector more efficient/effective. Why would it help one of the most complicated and expensive sectors of the economy?


What was certainly helped more than doing nothing for these people. That's what you guys don't seem to understand. I would say it's 100% more efficient if someone's being taken care of that wasn't before.

Empathy isn't feelings. It's also a human tool that helped us get this far in our Evolution and growth. Simply dismissing it as silly, when it's been the main thing that unites us all, there's a very convenient way of you forgetting facts.

Usually government involvement is bad when no one participates actively in their community. We can always hold government accountable but you just actually have to pay attention and participate. Works better than throwing up your hands and saying that it can't be done. If conservatives put as much effort into that is they do and they're helping themselves, we may actually get some real progress.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:20 pm to
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So if it comes down to a family putting food on the table at Christmas vs buying the kids a pony, you buy the pony because it's the only life your kids have.


It's pretty terrible analogy considering I was talking about really just living at all. I also wouldn't call basic health care a pony.

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Emotion vs pragmatism is an ocean apart with the liberals.




You guys love to peddle this idea but it's pretty meaningless at this point. Sure there are some artists and some very Progressive people who assume that everyone can live as peacefully as they do. I guess it would be more pragmatic to realize that the authoritarian group of society will always try to destroy everything and take it for themselves.

The truth is that all people of any political background should have been taught when they were children to think critically. Sometimes thinking critically leads to some more informed decision which makes for a more peaceful life which is where you get the blending of feeling and pragmatism. They should be balanced in each person. Simply dismissing empathy as a Feeling and a hindrance to your pragmatism is shedding your basic Humanity and denying yourself a societal Outlook. It's just an empty way for you to justify caring only about yourself
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48790 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:32 pm to
Muh emotions.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Muh emotions.


Fear is a republican tool. You guys definitely have emotions and not the good ones
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19274 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:39 pm to
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Fear is a republican tool. You guys definitely have emotions and not the good ones
You are so full of shite. The morons you worship have said "millions would be killed because of tax cuts" and "We have 12 years left" The left uses fear mongering for everything. What a fricking moron.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:45 pm to
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You are so full of shite. The morons you worship have said "millions would be killed because of tax cuts" and "We have 12 years left" The left uses fear mongering for everything. What a fricking moron.


You guys fears usually lead to worse things. Patriot Act, preemptive War, being afraid of Outsiders and thinking white people will be replaced. Blah blah blah. Saying we should worry but our environment is entirely different thing and you know it.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19274 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 12:53 pm to
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You guys fears usually lead to worse things. Patriot Act, preemptive War, being afraid of Outsiders and thinking white people will be replaced. Blah blah blah. Saying we should worry but our environment is entirely different thing and you know it.
Frick off with your bullshite. Love the generalizations. Do you have talking points to use taped on your refrigerator? I don't fear any of the things you just stated. I also don't agree with everything the people I vote for do. That's the difference. You blindly follow like a damn lemming no matter how absurd it is. Learn to think for yourself and get rid of the dumbarse talking points you keep spouting over and over.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Ebbandflow


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Fear is a republican tool. You guys definitely have emotions and not the good ones


You are a professional panhandler.

You are WORSE than the bums who stand on the corner begging for handouts.

They at least put themselves out there and have to look people in the eyes.

People like you hide in your house typing on a keyboard wanting complete strangers to pay for your shite.

If you came from a bad home , sorry !

If you made bad decisions when you were younger which prevent you from getting a job with benefits , that's on you.

I should be able to save or spend my disposable income on myself , family or friends , I shouldn't have to pay for your shite.

I save my empathy and/or sympathy for the disabled , people layed off and for the fetuses you Liberals butcher everyday.

I have ZERO empathy or sympathy for lazy asses and people who make or have made bad decisions.

Keep your fricking hand out of my pocket.
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