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re: Check out this absurd press release from an Australian politician re mosque shootings
Posted on 3/15/19 at 2:53 pm to idlewatcher
Posted on 3/15/19 at 2:53 pm to idlewatcher
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You're conflating two separate issues.
No I'm not. They're two meaningless issues to be honest.
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He's talking about what the Bible teaches us
I'm sure that provided great comfort to those who were subject to the spread of Christianity by the sword.
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not what you think it means.
How do you know what I think it means?
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The Crusades were called upon by the Pope to aid the Byzantines after yup, you guessed it, a Muslim horde captured their territory.
That's wonderful. By the fourth crusade, they were sacking Constantinople, who were, yup, you guessed it, fellow Christians.
Honestly, the whole Islam is, Islam isn't, Christianity is Christianity isn't, discussion is tiresome.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
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That's wonderful. By the fourth crusade, they were sacking Constantinople, who were, yup, you guessed it, fellow Christians.
Honestly, the whole Islam is, Islam isn't, Christianity is Christianity isn't, discussion is tiresome.
He also doesn't mention that the reason for the Crusades was that the frontier that had stabilized between the Arabs and Byzantines had been thrown into disarray by the entrance of the Turks, who threw the whole balance of power of the region into disarray. So much so that we don't have very many Muslim sources of the First Crusade, as the Muslim empires were either unprepared or fighting among themselves.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 3:27 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Christianity hasn't spread by the sword. To be sure, it's been a factor in many wars, but none were wars of Christian expansion. The Crussades, most of which were just excuses for younger sons of lords to make their way and gain fortunes, were still a response to muslim invasions.
I'm sure that provided great comfort to those who were subject to the spread of Christianity by the sword.
Islam spread almost exclusively by the sword. If you want to have this conversation, I'll be here all afternoon.
quote:Islamic invasions of Europe began in the 7th century. They have continued in one form or other since then. Even during and after the "Crusades," muslims were still advancing into Europe. Go look up why Vlad the Impaler was impaling people, and who he was impaling, and you'll get a good look at post-Crusade muslim aggression.
That's wonderful. By the fourth crusade, they were sacking Constantinople, who were, yup, you guessed it, fellow Christians.
Don't get me wrong, both are Abrahamic faiths that never should have been allowed to exist, but Islam was born in and has existed in a constant state of violence since it was dreamed up by a fricking madman.
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