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re: New Mexico National Popular Vote Bill Headed to Governer's Desk
Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:02 pm to Armchair_QB
Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:02 pm to Armchair_QB
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There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to the fewest objections
James Madison
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But frick James Madison, right? so ignorant about the constitution.
Compromises are important in getting the nation formed. It doesn't mean we have to hold them sacred as iff handed down by the lord himself. the facts that it is a compromise means that a lot of our founding father's didn't want it, but could live wiht it.
The constitution also gives these states free reign to decide. If they want to base is on other states votes isn't that for their legislature to decide?
The "compact between states" issue is a real complaint, but it is more procedural than substantive. These states could easily independently do this on their own.
The "mob rule" issue with a popular vote was that the founding fathers 1) were elitists who literally just wanted the electoral college to decide on their own. Electors weren't even picked by popular vote till the 1800s. 2) were from lave states that didn't want a president elected by an more populated abolitionist north.
I guarantee none of us would be voting for president if we went by the original method
this is not a partisan issue, unless the only reason you don't want a popular vote is that you think your party wont win.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 1:09 am to SammyTiger
quote:Still true today. Though not over slavery, most don’t want an entire election decided by essentially five urban areas of the country.
were from lave states that didn't want a president elected by an more populated abolitionist north.
quote:As long as one party has a lock on the most populated areas—it’s a partisan issue. Good grief.
this is not a partisan issue, unless the only reason you don't want a popular vote is that you think your party wont win.
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