I'm sure some would claim I'm spreading an anti-semitic trope:

Some would say they're insular and typically successful. That combination can ruffle non-Jews, especially if perceived as not suffering in the same manner as everyone else during troubling times.

Strip religion and ethnicity out of it: If one small body of people is doing well (even if by their own work/merit) and most of that success stays within the group, outsiders tend to get miffed.

Counterpoints:

Maybe people shouldn't/have no legitimate basis to get miffed
Maybe Jews aren't as insular as people perceive
Maybe to the extent Jews are insular, they have good reason to be
Maybe Jews aren't as universally successful as people perceive
Maybe to the extent they are that successful, "others" should keep up rather than get pissed about it

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Posted by airlinehwypanhandler

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Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:37 am to Pettifogger

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Strip religion and ethnicity out of it: If one small body of people is doing well (even if by their own work/merit) and most of that success stays within the group, outsiders tend to get miffed.

This is what Hitler preyed on

Germany was in financial ruin after WW1. Yet, the jews in Germany and their banks were still doing well, but were(in Hitler's words) being unfair with their banking and lending practices.

That made an easy populist target for Hitler. He began to take on the banks. It was really popular obviously because the people suffering in Germany post WW1 were non-jews. It was easy for him to make the argument to his people that jews were responsible for the financial ruin because they ran all the banks. Hence jews became the target.

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Posted by 3nOut

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Posted on 3/6/19 at 11:51 am to Pettifogger

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Some would say they're insular and typically successful. That combination can ruffle non-Jews, especially if perceived as not suffering in the same manner as everyone else during troubling times.

Strip religion and ethnicity out of it: If one small body of people is doing well (even if by their own work/merit) and most of that success stays within the group, outsiders tend to get miffed.

i was actually kind of interested in this when reading "Garden of the Beasts" which details the US ambassador (william dodd) and his 20 year old daughter as he goes to his post in Germany during Hitler's rise to power.

long and short of it is that Jews tend to be successful in a lot of ways, especially financial. after WW1 Germany was in a bad place and a lot of Jews in Germany were able to seize on that and become pretty successful. Whether it was by proper means isn't for me to say, but Hitler was able to point to them as the bad guys delaying their return to power.

Some of the memoirs from Dodd and his daughter was pretty callous toward the Jews in Germany at that time to be honest. Not hateful or derogatory, just like "oh man... they killed some more Jews last night. So unfortunate."

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