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If you recall, when AD would hurt his vagina every 5 games or so and sit, Ajinca would come in and be serviceable. His Per36 stats were good, and almost identical to Diallo's. he was nothing special, and a fouling machine, but he had no problem scoring when given the opportunity, just like Okafor. Doesn't change the fact that neither of them are good players on a good team. What you are thinking about Diallo, is exactly what Dell thought about Ajinca before giving him that deal. No $4M isn't some crazy number, but it's 200% more than he's worth and what he brings to the court. Again, why would you pay someone $4M to do something someone that makes $1.5M can do? You assume that i think Ajinca was somehow a decent deal at the time, which it wasn't. I'm simply pointing out that your thinking of Diallo, is exactly what Dell thought of Ajinca, and you are allowing your recency bias of both ajinca and Diallo to not allow you to see the striking similarities

So much of this is just wrong. There’s not very many similarities between Ajinca and Diallo. They’re not even close to similar players. I’m not going to argue Ajinca vs Diallo because for one, the deal I’m proposing isn’t even comparable...for two, there’s very little similarities unless you want to simplify it to the bare bones averages. And only then do certain things stick.

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I'm not saying to cut bait with him. I'm not saying to not keep him. I like Diallo, and i'd love to keep him, but why would you offer some long term deal when no one else in the league would? I've said it many times over the last 2 years that he should play more. His hustle running the floor creates space as crazy as that sounds. As a team that pushes the pace, he gets that started by making the defense adjust to him running the floor and helps create confusion and mismatches elsewhere. You think i'm being moronic, and i feel the same exact way about your rationale on this.

Again, comparing a 4/20 with a 58 million cap to a 3/12 with a 109 cap is just disingenuous. There’s plenty of reason to lock him up for twice the minimum. If this improvement isn’t a mirage, you have him under contract on a very team friendly deal. But fine, let him go, or make him sign the QO and bolt in free agency. It’s really not a make or break issue, but acting like this is some whacky and crazy idea is kind of stupid and uninformed, especially with the dumbass Ajinca comparison you keep throwing around.

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Posted by TeddyPadillac

Member since Dec 2010

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Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:08 am to ShamelessPel

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They’re not even close to similar players

I agree. Doesn't change the fact that they both were backup bigs that have good PER36 numbers and have had games where they played really well, mostly in games that didn't matter on teams that weren't going to the playoffs.

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Again, comparing a 4/20 with a 58 million cap to a 3/12 with a 109 cap is just disingenuous.

58 million cap?
It was $70M, and they new it was jumping to near $100M the next year which is why so many stupid arse long term deals were given out that year.

Tell me specifically what he does on offense and defense that warrants above the minimum? I explained what i thought his game was specifically. You keep saying he can improve and outperform his contract. Explain to me in basketball terms how he's going to do that in your eyes. You've yet to do that, and if you want to convince me, or anyone else out there he deserves a ridiculous deal like that, be specific in what you see him becoming. I can be convinced to change my mind, but you need to do a much better job at it.

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Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

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Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:08 am to ShamelessPel

There is no reason to be pre-emptive or proactive here. Pretty much all but the obvious Max Level RFAs have to go through the same process. Their agent tries to get an offer sheet for their team to match before they accept a lower offer than they were hoping for.

If Diallo gets an offer sheet, which I think is a big if, I only consider matching it if I respect the FO that made the offer. Remember that we ended up with Hill's contract because the Lakers were one of the teams interested in him too and drove his price up. We should have let them have him. That was the same Lakers that later grossly over paid Mozgov and Deng. Demps had all the evidence he needed to see he was on the wrong path.

If Pop or Carlisle wants Diallo, you should match. If it's another dumpster fire franchise they can have him.

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Posted by DeionDeion

New Orleans, LA

Member since Apr 2010

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Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:19 am to ShamelessPel

I don't understand why so many are ready & willing to spend cap space this summer. That's what we did with AD and it left us lacking for ways to improve the roster. We have one of the best guards in the league in Jrue and potentially will have one of best up-and-coming SF's in the NBA in Jayson Tatum and a chance to build a squad around them. And the way some of yall want to do that is by signing FAs this summer like Vucevic or giving Diallo $4 mil/yr? I don't get it.

I'm not trying to be a jerk but I don't want this rebuild put on fast-forward. That's what messed us up with building around AD. I'd rather accumulate things we've never had: assets. Like acquiring bad contracts for picks. Or signing a good player to a short term deal so that we can trade him for a young player.

Because imo some of the rosters I'm seeing gets us to the 7th or 6th seed at best and that's where we cap out.

I think we try to not to repeat the mistakes of the past. Accumulate as much as we can a la the Brooklyn Nets model that way we don't waste another chance to build a contender around a young, budding talent

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