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Advice - Gaming PC for Son
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:32 am
I searched and looked back through some threads but couldn’t find anything. My son (11) has been asking about gaming PCs, I am fairly computer literate but not computer assembly literate so would probably be looking for a good starter system that we could learn on and upgrade. He mainly plays Fortnite and first person shooter games on his xbox. Any suggestions for a good box system without breaking the bank - under $1000 if possible for complete ready to play???
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:35 am to swanny297
Buy parts and learn to build it with your son. Would be a great experience for both of you
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:01 pm to bluebarracuda
Agree - I guess we could research this some more, just figured if we bought one ready to use it would give us time to learn and a base to upgrade
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:22 pm to swanny297
It's easy enough to do. Plenty of good youtube tutorials out there to watch
Plus we have a large 1500 page thread at the top you can try and sift through
Plus we have a large 1500 page thread at the top you can try and sift through
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:53 pm to swanny297
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Agree - I guess we could research this some more, just figured if we bought one ready to use it would give us time to learn and a base to upgrade
Its pretty easy....My daughter (10) and I built her gaming computer. It is the best computer in the house actually. It was my first build as well...just did research online and was pretty straight forward. A little more costly than a premade system but she really enjoyed it when I explained what each part did and what they were for...was a good dad/daughter time. I took my time and waited until parts were on sale and would have her look up the parts we would need online and when we saw a good deal we would buy that part. She would check off all the parts we were still missing and was invested in looking for the best deal on RAM, SSD, video card, ETC.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:54 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
Buy parts and learn to build it with your son. Would be a great experience for both of you
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:55 pm to swanny297
Do you already have a decent monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers? You can build a pretty, pretty good one for under $1k with Windows 10 included.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:54 pm to Chinese Bandit
quote:Crazy how times change. I remember when premades were a complete ripoff.
A little more costly than a premade system
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:59 pm to swanny297
Don't be afraid to list out the parts you plan to buy here and their costs.
People here will tell you if you are really screwing up or could maybe make better choices.
People here will tell you if you are really screwing up or could maybe make better choices.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:04 pm to Korin
Hey has a cheap gaming keyboard and mouse that he got for Christmas that he uses with his xbox I think this is what has peaked his interest
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:06 pm to Drewbie
Yeah doing some searching today there seem to be some pretty good box systems that will get him started and allow for upgrades. He was looking at ibuypower systems today, I was looking at the components.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:23 pm to Drewbie
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Crazy how times change. I remember when premades were a complete ripoff.
They still are...
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:49 pm to swanny297
I’m telling you from someone who grew up playing on shitty prebuilt machines and finally built my own PC...building your own PC gives you a greater since of ownership, accomplishment, and the knowledge to know how to repair and replace the hardware if and when the time comes...you should seriously reconsider buying a prebuilt just for the experience
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:06 pm to swanny297
Make sure you put your budget in for at least a 144hz monitor if playing fps and Fortnite.
I would think a rx 590 build would be good with a 2600 16GB at about 3200
G203 mouse or g502 (if you can still get it cheap)
I would think a rx 590 build would be good with a 2600 16GB at about 3200
G203 mouse or g502 (if you can still get it cheap)
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:07 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Make sure you put your budget in for at least a 144hz monitor if playing fps and Fortnite.
Build the budget for the PC first, and then get the peripherals later
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:12 pm to bluebarracuda
He won't see a difference though. 144 Hz gaming ain't going anywhere.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.41 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($33.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: ASRock - Radeon RX 590 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $769.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-12 22:15 EST-0500
+ LINK
940 and a $30 G203
Will get 144 hz, have the monitor to support it, and have a good mouse.
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.41 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($33.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: ASRock - Radeon RX 590 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $769.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-12 22:15 EST-0500
+ LINK
940 and a $30 G203
Will get 144 hz, have the monitor to support it, and have a good mouse.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:17 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
No, I'm saying don't build the monitor into your budget.
You put 100% of the budget to the PC (that is if you already have a usable monitor and peripherals) and then buy the peripherals later.
You put 100% of the budget to the PC (that is if you already have a usable monitor and peripherals) and then buy the peripherals later.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:17 pm to bluebarracuda
60hz is not a good monitor for PC as the kid will literally see no real difference from the console. He is already playing on KB/M on console.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:20 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Like I'm literally saying, that's something that is much easier to upgrade more quickly rather than a video card, for example.
You skimp your PC build to buy a 144hz monitor, your upgrade path now becomes more expensive and you're stuck with extra parts to have to try and re-sell.
With monitors it's different. You build the best PC you can buy, and whenever you want a new monitor, you just throw your old one as your secondary and you're good to go
Edit: And having a gaming PC isn't solely to be better than consoles, even though they are significantly better with a lowly 60hz monitor
You skimp your PC build to buy a 144hz monitor, your upgrade path now becomes more expensive and you're stuck with extra parts to have to try and re-sell.
With monitors it's different. You build the best PC you can buy, and whenever you want a new monitor, you just throw your old one as your secondary and you're good to go
Edit: And having a gaming PC isn't solely to be better than consoles, even though they are significantly better with a lowly 60hz monitor
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:38 pm to bluebarracuda
What would be need to upgrade for 1080p? FPS and Fortnite is high frame stuff.
240 is the next step and not really needed.
I understand what you're saying but that logic is no longer needed as most components can do 1080p now and unless going to 1440p or 4k, no need to upgrade for a long time.
Let's say he gets a 1000 PC with a marginally better CPU for gaming and a GPU that does 200 fps as opposed to 160 fps. What good is that if his monitor is 144?
There is no real difference in feel or experience at 60fps on PC and console. I'd rather the 144hz experience and smooth gameplay now then have a better PC and have no perceivable difference in play.
240 is the next step and not really needed.
I understand what you're saying but that logic is no longer needed as most components can do 1080p now and unless going to 1440p or 4k, no need to upgrade for a long time.
Let's say he gets a 1000 PC with a marginally better CPU for gaming and a GPU that does 200 fps as opposed to 160 fps. What good is that if his monitor is 144?
There is no real difference in feel or experience at 60fps on PC and console. I'd rather the 144hz experience and smooth gameplay now then have a better PC and have no perceivable difference in play.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 9:42 pm
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