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re: Andrew Whitworth is Salty about the no call

Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:17 am to
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17377 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:17 am to
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I think you're missing his point. It's a false dichotomy between "potentially effect" and "one that would have ended it" because no one knows how much effect an earlier bad call would have had or changed the flow. How far back do you want to 'rewind' and restart the game?


I understand his point completely, any call could alter the outcome. The point that he’s missing is there was no could involved with this particular call. Considering the time left on the clock and field position, that call directly changed the outcome of the game. Throw the flag and the saints win, period. Like I said, if this happens in the second quarter then a few people bitch but it’s largely a non-story.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5355 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:58 am to
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Throw the flag and the saints win, period.


The thing is you technically can’t say “Saints win period”. It wasn’t a kneel out the clock situation. They would have still had to run 3 plays and then execute a successful field goal attempt to take the lead. Heck the Ram’s would have still gotten the ball back with a little time on the clock, and we all know what happened in that same situation last year, the “Minnesota Miracle” happened. Sure the chances of a Saints victory would have been VERY high, but no guarantee.

So the point he makes about the missed face mask is legit. You can say that missed penalty cost them a touchdown. Which would have forced the Saints to score a touchdown on their last possession. So if the call is made correctly the chance of a Rams victory would have been really high at that point.

The missed PI call was atrocious. But to discredit the Rams by saying the ONLY reason they won is because of the REFs isn’t fair to them, and most importantly isn’t accurate.

Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5726 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 12:50 pm to
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I understand his point completely, any call could alter the outcome. The point that he’s missing is there was no could involved with this particular call. Considering the time left on the clock and field position, that call directly changed the outcome of the game. Throw the flag and the saints win, period. Like I said, if this happens in the second quarter then a few people bitch but it’s largely a non-story.
Soooo if the Saints score a touchdown with a 1:30 left, the Rams ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT score a touchdown to tie the game?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16665 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 9:37 am to
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Considering the time left on the clock and field position, that call directly changed the outcome of the game.


But why are you privileging one play over another? Or when does a game shift into "directly change the outcome of the game' mode?

If you want to 'undo' one play why stop there?
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