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re: Just how important is the baseball closer: Mariano Rivera related

Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:53 pm to
Everyone would.

There are great kickers too. And punters. Not everyone has to be Vinatieri or Ray Guy.

The margin between great and all-time great is tiny in niche positions. Most FG kickers are within tiny percentage points of made and missed FGs.

Like I posted earlier, Eck was only 83% on the ballot and the dude won 20 games as a starter and then moved to the pen where he had the lowest ERA ever.

Gave up 5 hits a year with 50 saves.

But Mariano is 100% and Eck is only 83%? Either you're the best and everyone agrees or you don't get in.

And yes, every club in every league would take not only the full-time players you listed but Eck over Mariano because Eck at one point was a full-time pitcher.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:56 pm to
Reminded me of one of my favorite stats: in 1990 Eck had an ERA+ of 603 :-0
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