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re: Offensive Line vs Scheme. NE vs KC - perfect explanation why LSU's scheme needs to change
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:59 pm to TrevRollings29
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:59 pm to TrevRollings29
IMO it's a little tough to be comparing two of the best NFL offenses to what LSU is doing. Obviously, we need to improve in a number of areas on offense, but players are in the NFL for a reason.
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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IMO it's a little tough to be comparing two of the best NFL offenses to what LSU is doing. Obviously, we need to improve in a number of areas on offense, but players are in the NFL for a reason.
To be fair - there are maybe 4 teams in the NFL that even average 3 seconds to complete a pass, the rest are all below that mark.
My point is that, if we look at the NFL - across the board - offensive schemes are required to deal with having less than 3 seconds to throw the ball. I also made note of it in Clemson vs Oklahoma - Lawrence didn't have that much time - it's the scheme.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:04 pm to TigerLunatik
TigerLunatik
Updated 4:51 pm 1/20: Jan 14th 2019- Pass Protection & LSU: Max Protect Blocking Schemes are limiting QBs, causing sacks & hindering the Offensive Production Note: I looked up the sack rate numbers reported here and they are bad for 2018: 35 sks, 103rd nationally, last in the SEC. However, the extremes in the report could not be verified via CFBstats: 2017-83rd, 2016-32nd, 2015-30th, 2014-55th. The sks in descending order were 35, 13, 19, 17, 25 or a range of 2.39 sks/gm down to 1.92/gm in 2014, with 17 sks in 2015 being the lowest and ranked 30th. It is a strong verification of how "phone booth" max protect, non-spread scheme is so fossilized and out-of-date with Modern Spread Offenses.
He is talking about Scheme. The Scheme is the same as Clemson and ALA, Oklahoma, all the successful teams who have made it to the CFPNC: RPO, Spread, Quick Release, 11 personnel (3WR +flex TE, or 4 WR, 1 RB also used as a WR in RPOs. Or haven't you noticed the deficiencies in Scheme while you celebrate a 5-3 SEC season?
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IMO it's a little tough to be comparing two of the best NFL offenses to what LSU is doing. Obviously, we need to improve in a number of areas on offense, but players are in the NFL for a reason.
Updated 4:51 pm 1/20: Jan 14th 2019- Pass Protection & LSU: Max Protect Blocking Schemes are limiting QBs, causing sacks & hindering the Offensive Production Note: I looked up the sack rate numbers reported here and they are bad for 2018: 35 sks, 103rd nationally, last in the SEC. However, the extremes in the report could not be verified via CFBstats: 2017-83rd, 2016-32nd, 2015-30th, 2014-55th. The sks in descending order were 35, 13, 19, 17, 25 or a range of 2.39 sks/gm down to 1.92/gm in 2014, with 17 sks in 2015 being the lowest and ranked 30th. It is a strong verification of how "phone booth" max protect, non-spread scheme is so fossilized and out-of-date with Modern Spread Offenses.
He is talking about Scheme. The Scheme is the same as Clemson and ALA, Oklahoma, all the successful teams who have made it to the CFPNC: RPO, Spread, Quick Release, 11 personnel (3WR +flex TE, or 4 WR, 1 RB also used as a WR in RPOs. Or haven't you noticed the deficiencies in Scheme while you celebrate a 5-3 SEC season?
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:08 am to TigerLunatik
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The Patriots and Chiefs have good offensive lines. You can’t go this far into the season without a good OL in the NFL.
2016 Denver Broncos say hi. That entire offense was average at best. Peyton was nowhere near the Peyton of years ago. They won that championship on defense.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:37 am to TigerLunatik
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IMO it's a little tough to be comparing two of the best NFL offenses to what LSU is doing. Obviously, we need to improve in a number of areas on offense, but players are in the NFL for a reason.
I agree. Also, the 20 hr rule is a big difference.
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