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re: Greatest Animated Movie of All-Time! CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH! **voting closes 1/9 @ 10:53p.m.**

Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 11:57 pm to
You make good points. Maybe I'm hard on Beauty and the Beast...because people went ape-shite over it at the time...because it was like...Disney is back!

I think that's why it also got nominations. In hindsight, I just don't think it's all that special.

People mistake Disney...they were never about fun and happy...despite Disneyland being the happiest place on Earth.

They were dark and told the truth about life. From Bambi to Mary Poppins to Fox and the Hound to everything up until the 90's when things changed then we got The Last Jedi.

I should go watch it again but I'm just going off of memory and I wasn't overwhelmed. Lion King I felt had emotional gravitas like Fox. But I think you are onto something. Disney did seem to change after Beauty and Beast - for better or for worse.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 12:21 am to
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You make good points. Maybe I'm hard on Beauty and the Beast...because people went ape-shite over it at the time...because it was like...Disney is back!


You may be older than me, because Beauty and the Beast I’m pretty confident was my first movie to ever see in the theater, but this is my contention with The Little Mermaid. Fantastic songs, animation, and villain, but I think the rest of it was just bad.

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They were dark and told the truth about life. From Bambi to Mary Poppins to Fox and the Hound to everything up until the 90's when things changed then we got The Last Jedi.


I mean, it’s not as dark as Pinocchio or Alice in Wonderland or Dumbo, but I’d say it’s in the darker side of the Disney canon. As big of an oaf as Gaston is, he turns into one of Disney’s darkest and most determined villains. I do think that is skilled writing when you can take a character from that extreme to the other and make it feel organic.

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But I think you are onto something. Disney did seem to change after Beauty and Beast - for better or for worse.


I do think that’s what modern day Disney animators try to emulate over any other film in their filmography, and as you say, for better or for worse.
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