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Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:25 pm
I pose these questions to you sir, as you stated you wouldn't answer unless I started a new thread.


1. yes or no - did Trump lie when he said Mexico would pay for the wall?
2. If Mexico is paying for the wall, is there ANY proof available stating that they would pay for it? Please provide a link.
3. Why does Trump need 5B to pay for the wall if Mexico is paying for it?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:26 pm to
Wall? What wall?

That dumb thing is never going to be built.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:28 pm to
This is a call out thread and will probably get whacked, but no one was stupid enough to believe that Mexico was cutting us a check.

Funding measures were debated vigorously during the campaign, but appropriations must first come from congress.

This angle is stupid and tired and unoriginal.
Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:29 pm to
You are an idiot if you think tump saying "Mexico will pay for the way" actually means they will give us cash up front to pay to construct the wall.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

This is a call out thread and will probably get whacked


He asked me to do it.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

You are an idiot if you think tump saying "Mexico will pay for the way" actually means they will give us cash up front to pay to construct the wall.



Would like to see where they agreed to pay for it by other means. If Trump said they were going to pay for the wall, that statement must have been based on some fact, right?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:32 pm to
Link me to one of those “debates” i dont recall ever reading one. As i have asked numerous times:
What mechanism in the (unratified) usmca allows for funds to be diverted to wall construction?

Posted by TheMailman
Member since Jul 2017
1550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:33 pm to
It's going to save us money from having to pay and take care of illegals. Over time that will pay for itself
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:36 pm to
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He asked me to do it.


Would you jump off a cliff?

Please.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:37 pm to
They didn’t and they don’t have to. Taxes on remittances, foreign aid cuts, and cartel assets were all proposed both before and after the election. Congress did nothing.

Even if they granted the US 5 bil in foreign aid specifically for a wall, I’m fairly certain the money has to pass through Congress and be appropriated the same way it’s being done now. Congress needs to do its job.

You know all of this already. You are trying to make a gotcha thread but this “gotcha” is more worn out than Stormy Daniels.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
9354 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:37 pm to
You’re obsessed. If this is all you have to complain about then you’re just a sad and miserable person. Trump has done more good for this country than the last 3 presidents combined, guess you just have to bitch for the sake of bitching. Go frick yourself.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46550 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Link me to one of those “debates”


How about you GFY?
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

It's going to save us money from having to pay and take care of illegals. Over time that will pay for itself


That's gonna be offset by the economic impact of losing millions of workers. I need to see real figures where Mexico is funding this wall.

I'm for a wall, BTW. As long as we build a processing center at the wall to help get workers through the right way.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35770 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Would like to see where they agreed to pay for it 
I don't recall them agreeing to pay for it.

Seems like the tune of somewhere around $20bb a year our government spends on legal, healthcare and welfare on illegal immigrants would offset the cost of the wall rather quickly. Mexico will have to take care of their own, and turn Hondurans and El Salvadorans and Guatemalans back towards their own countries.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25606 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:41 pm to
We are losing over 100 billion a year in taxes going to illegal’s healthcare and schooling, while they contribute about 10 billion while sending hundreds of billions out of our economy and south of the border. But you are bent over 10 billion.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19479 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

1. yes or no - did Trump lie when he said Mexico would pay for the wall?
2. If Mexico is paying for the wall, is there ANY proof available stating that they would pay for it? Please provide a link.
3. Why does Trump need 5B to pay for the wall if Mexico is paying for it?


1. Yes

2. Yes but they are not writing a check for it.

3. The wall will create economic gains on the US side which will pay for a $5 billion dollar wall monthly.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38906 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:42 pm to
Whether it is a call out thread or not, there is nothing stopping this bone guy from responding. Whacked or not.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

As long as we build a processing center at the wall to help get workers through the right way.


You do know that you're actually using the same rationale as the old slave owners of the south, right??


"You know what those cotton britches would cost if we had to pay good 'ol southern baws to do the work?? Hell, those naggers take whatever we give em."
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

You do know that you're actually using the same rationale as the old slave owners of the south, right??


It's the world we live in. Americans simply don't want to work

this is what happens without migrant labor
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108334 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

We are losing over 100 billion a year in taxes going to illegal’s healthcare and schooling, while they contribute about 10 billion while sending hundreds of billions out of our economy and south of the border. But you are bent over 10 billion.


This, no matter if Trump lied or didn't, Mexico paying for it or not. The amount of money being spent and lost on illegals is staggering.

It should be a felony to give any governmental aid to illegal immigrants. You stop the entitlements and you will stem the flow of illegals to our country by a large margin.
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