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re: TRUMP Border Wall GoFundMe Page Passes $4.3 Million

Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2329 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:18 am to
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but it does sort of undermine the argument I’ve watched (particularly on TD) that the wall is not a popular idea.


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I would not write off passionate support of the Wall. It’s real. And it’s popular. And people WANT to pay for it.


Those two conclusions do not necessarily go together. No doubt people are passionate about the wall; that should come as no surprise since it was a major mantra of Trump's campaign. But that doesn't mean the wall is popular. Less than 100,000 people have donated so far...that isn't even a blip on the radar of popularity. If 1,000,000 people donate, that is still less than 1/3 of 1% of the US population.

For the record, I believe in making drastic increases in our border security and totally revamping our immigration laws....but I also believe a border wall is incredibly stupid.

We built that fence, and it was an economic and ecological disaster, while failing to curtail illegal immigration or drug trafficking by any appreciable amount. A wall will be at least 15 times more expensive, at least 15 times more destructive, and will accomplish almost nothing.

Even with a wall, we will have to increase border patrol to keep tabs on all the attempts to circumvent the wall. Let's just increase border patrol and other security measures that will actually have a positive effect, and quit obsessing over the stupid wall.

If we were to build even part of the wall, I predict we will be tearing it down within 20 years.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15876 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:21 am to
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Even with a wall, we will have to increase border patrol to keep tabs on all the attempts to circumvent the wall. Let's just increase border patrol and other security measures that will actually have a positive effect, and quit obsessing over the stupid wall.


Agreed. And work on removing illegals who came here legally and overstayed.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135225 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 11:28 am to
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Even with a wall, we will have to increase border patrol to keep tabs on all the attempts to circumvent the wall. Let's just increase border patrol and other security measures that will actually have a positive effect, and quit obsessing over the stupid wall.

To me, this is probably the most effective way to go about this. Increase man power and surveillance resources to effectively police the area. That way the dems stop bitching about the wall and the border is more secure
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