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Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:17 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:17 am to
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I think they largely know what works but the fact that their kids look different than each other is more important to them.


I can assure you they do not know what works.

How do you teach math? Drill and practice.
What do they want to not do to teach math? Drill and practice.
How do you teach reading? Phonics. Or more explicitly, phonemic awareness.
What do they not want to teach? Phonemic awareness.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 7:39 am to
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How do you teach math? Drill and practice.
What do they want to not do to teach math? Drill and practice.
How do you teach reading? Phonics. Or more explicitly, phonemic awareness.
What do they not want to teach? Phonemic awareness


This is actually a symptom of the problem I stated. The reason is simple. If you teach kids math or reading in the way you describe one of the reasons it is successful is because it gives children the tools to expand on their knowledge without direct teaching. This means that the rate at which the smarter kids will improve is increased.

So the educators have devised methods to try to flatten out the results. These methods revolve around trying to get the kids to learn only that which they are directly taught. That's the entire motivation behind the whole language movement that existed for a bit

If the only words the kids learn are the ones you directly teach them you prevent the smart kids from expanding on their base knowledge as rapidly

Make no mistake. The avoidance of the most successful methods has everything to do what's slowing down the smart kids. Because long ago they figured out that this was the only way to avoid the gap which they think is the most important thing in education
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51161 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:19 am to
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How do you teach math? Drill and practice.
What do they want to not do to teach math? Drill and practice.
How do you teach reading? Phonics. Or more explicitly, phonemic awareness.
What do they not want to teach? Phonemic awareness.


It's always obvious which kids have parents who use these methods at home. They're always doing better than their peers.
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