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re: Can someone explain to me the LHSAA split?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 4:18 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Posted on 12/3/18 at 4:18 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Many of the private schools in greater New Orleans have declining enrollment, but in the metro area, the attendance numbers for football absolutely favor the privates. I live near East Jefferson Stadium, and can anecdotally tell you, that there are not many folks at many football games except when Archbishop Rummel plays against one of their larger Catholic League rivals.
The trend in the rest of the state is the opposite, or so I have read on this board, the publics around the rest of the state outdraw the privates.
According to people who seem to know things, the privates and their supporters are already sick of the situation, they are not even an effective minority in the LHSAA. The publics call all the shots, and there are not enough private schools to really affect the vote.
Additionally, however, it seems that there is no resolve or consensus among the privates that would even facilitate their leaving the LHSAA, and they disagree on too many issues to even convincingly threaten to leave. Of course the LHSAA wants their metro New Orleans and Baton Rouge attendance monies, but any threat to leave? They can't get together and agree to basic, common ideas.
Many of the privates simply do not want to be the ones to "destroy" the LHSAA, either, or so it seems. Many still think that they can put Humpty Dumpty back together again if they say the right words, promote ideas that would alleviate tensions or what-have-you. The publics just vote down most proposals IF the executive commettee even allows them onto the meeting agenda for discussion and voting.
The trend in the rest of the state is the opposite, or so I have read on this board, the publics around the rest of the state outdraw the privates.
According to people who seem to know things, the privates and their supporters are already sick of the situation, they are not even an effective minority in the LHSAA. The publics call all the shots, and there are not enough private schools to really affect the vote.
Additionally, however, it seems that there is no resolve or consensus among the privates that would even facilitate their leaving the LHSAA, and they disagree on too many issues to even convincingly threaten to leave. Of course the LHSAA wants their metro New Orleans and Baton Rouge attendance monies, but any threat to leave? They can't get together and agree to basic, common ideas.
Many of the privates simply do not want to be the ones to "destroy" the LHSAA, either, or so it seems. Many still think that they can put Humpty Dumpty back together again if they say the right words, promote ideas that would alleviate tensions or what-have-you. The publics just vote down most proposals IF the executive commettee even allows them onto the meeting agenda for discussion and voting.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 5:03 pm to RedPop4
Excellent post RedPop
100% true, and the publics know it which further divides them the way they treat "privates".
There is a consensus on how they would do it, and it would be ugly and brutal. But again you are correct there is not enough resolve because honestly the optics would be terrible especially right now.
Like I said I do not think there is any threat right now, but once all sports split and the time frame of about 5-7 years I could see a major threat and it coming from my next point from community schools.
Yep, I think the split will happen when what I call "community schools" that are publics choose to go select because they know it is better for their schools and their athletes. When the privates can get enough of these types to side with them fully the big split will happen. Another issue is that apparently only per state association is recognized, like was under the MHSAA/MAIS way, there was never a "split" it has always just been this way since segregation. So like the optics this could be very bad and the state would have to step in, which would make it worse because you then have the brain trust that is the state legislature trying to work together.
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According to people who seem to know things, the privates and their supporters are already sick of the situation, they are not even an effective minority in the LHSAA. The publics call all the shots, and there are not enough private schools to really affect the vote.
100% true, and the publics know it which further divides them the way they treat "privates".
quote:
Additionally, however, it seems that there is no resolve or consensus among the privates that would even facilitate their leaving the LHSAA,
There is a consensus on how they would do it, and it would be ugly and brutal. But again you are correct there is not enough resolve because honestly the optics would be terrible especially right now.
quote:
but any threat to leave? They can't get together and agree to basic, common ideas.
Like I said I do not think there is any threat right now, but once all sports split and the time frame of about 5-7 years I could see a major threat and it coming from my next point from community schools.
quote:
Many of the privates simply do not want to be the ones to "destroy" the LHSAA, either, or so it seems.
Yep, I think the split will happen when what I call "community schools" that are publics choose to go select because they know it is better for their schools and their athletes. When the privates can get enough of these types to side with them fully the big split will happen. Another issue is that apparently only per state association is recognized, like was under the MHSAA/MAIS way, there was never a "split" it has always just been this way since segregation. So like the optics this could be very bad and the state would have to step in, which would make it worse because you then have the brain trust that is the state legislature trying to work together.
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