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Benchmarks of Conservatism....do they exist?

Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:48 pm
I don’t expect any Trumpers to post with any thought, just down votes and deflection posts. Give it some thought. After GM announced that they are cutting jobs and Ford and Tesla may soon follow suit.

Free market capitalism. GM announces cuts in jobs, 45 threatens the company with punishment for the company doing what is in share holders best interest. He did the same with Amazon. The corporate welfare...millionaire handout tax cut proves to be more and more of a mistake, but avg Joe Trumper thinks it’s benefitting them.

And yet Trumpers make excuses for him, after he demonstrates he doesn’t know anything about tariffs and interest rates. Maybe it’s time to admit your orange messiah is a damn idiot that can’t make an exact point on any question he’s asked. Everything he speaks to is in generalities. He’s an empty suit.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:54 pm to
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don’t expect any Trumpers to post with any thought, just down votes and deflection posts. Give it some thought. After GM announced that they are cutting jobs and Ford and Tesla may soon follow suit.

Free market capitalism. GM announces cuts in jobs, 45 threatens the company with punishment for the company doing what is in share holders best interest. He did the same with Amazon. The corporate welfare...millionaire handout tax cut proves to be more and more of a mistake, but avg Joe Trumper thinks it’s benefitting them.


I just can't even right now
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:56 pm to
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WillieNelsonsDoobie


Ban yourself Tuba
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Free market capitalism. GM announces cuts in jobs, 45 threatens the company with punishment for the company doing what is in share holders best interest


So you’re suggesting cutting government subsidies is now against free market capitalism?

Because that’s the punishment trump is talking about.
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:59 pm to
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Ban yourself Tuba


45 is talking to you bruh
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:59 pm to
trump never once claimed to be, or ran as a conservative

thats not why he was elected in a huge landslide

he was elected because he was opposite of being politically correct and acted like a man standing up and calling out BS for what it was

he was and is a realist who thinks we should do what is in americas best interests first and the rest of the globe comes in second

how you people manage to function each day so devoid of basic understanding of reality is simply amazing
Posted by Dead End
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:59 pm to
You start like this...

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I don’t expect any Trumpers to post with any thought, just down votes and deflection posts.


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Maybe it’s time to admit your orange messiah is a damn idiot


Then you pretend to want an "open discussion".

GFY, douche.
Posted by thatguy45
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:00 pm to
So the President threatening companies for closing down plants that employ thousands of people the President is supposed to protect is bad?
And lowering tax rates inside the US is bad because it, coupled with tariffs, provides incentive to companies to move production to the US and keep it here?
But full free market capitalism is what we should be continuing to go with because its been oh so wonderful to the working class in the US? How many factories have been closed because companies didn't get punished for moving production overseas? Having a high corporate tax rate only furthers the incentive for a company to move overseas where there is cheaper labor and looser labor laws.
I'll take someone trying something different over the process that has hollowed out manufacturing and turned the industrial belt into the rust belt.
And Trump telling GM to frick themselves for them closing plants after America bailed them out sounds a lot better than
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those workers are just a casualty of the market that we must continue to pursue because its been so good to us
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:00 pm to
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So you’re suggesting cutting government subsidies is now against free market capitalism?


You understand a free market means staying out of private business way...or are you going to move the goal post to suit your narrative?
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:02 pm to
In the context of your OP, most conservatives would like the United States (corporation) to CONSERVE its financial resources. What you call “punishment”, conservatives would call a reduction in wasteful spending (handouts/bailouts) to mega corporations. Of course… your Leftist mental illness mentions tax breaks for corporate elites, but through the conservative lens, it looks like less extortion of capital from companies in which Uncle Sam will just send in cash pallets to Iran.

Bottom line... benchmarks of Conservatism include the elimination of waste, fraud, and abuse of extorted $$$ from Joe & Jane Taxpayer. President Trump has done more for this conservative value than any other during my lifetime of 50 years.

Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Then you pretend to want an "open discussion". GFY, douche


Thanks for your post. You educated us all.
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:05 pm to
The Trumpster's going full commie. Not only is he advocating for state control of the auto industry, Trump also wants to control propaganda with a Pravda of his very own. Apparently the sycophants at Fox News aren't enough anymore.... (For those of you in Alabama, "Pravda" was the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.)

Trump proposes a government-run TV news network to counter CNN
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
11974 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:06 pm to
And thanks for your deflection. Just stop making “gotcha” threads disguised as “open discussions”.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:07 pm to
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And yet Trumpers make excuses for him


Well this is 100% on your own ignorance. Neither Trump or his clan areconservatives
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Bottom line... benchmarks of Conservatism include the elimination of waste, fraud, and abuse of extorted $$$ from Joe & Jane Taxpayer. President Trump has done more for this conservative value than any other during my lifetime of 50 years.


Rising debt....widening trade gaps...moral decay (didn’t the “Conservatives” get angry at Clinton because he lied about a bj), out of control spending (Mexico paying for the Wall or is Joe taxpayer)?

Yes...yes, he really is a bastian of conservatism.
Posted by WillieNelsonsDoobie
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Member since May 2014
1427 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:11 pm to
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And thanks for your deflection. Just stop making “gotcha” threads disguised as “open discussions”.


This isn’t a thread that is a circle jerk praising the orange messiah. You a correct.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
A viler evil than to murder a man, is to sell him suicide as an act of virtue
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56873 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
You say free market capitalism but then immediately talk about government subsidies. Which is it?

Also....the tax cuts were for nearly everyone. And receipts are up. Do you have anything to offer outside of empty platitudes?
Posted by imbtrthny
Member since Nov 2018
27 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Apparently the sycophants at Fox News aren't enough anymore....




"MUH STATE RUN MEDIA"
"MUH FAR RIGHT ECHO CHAMBER"
"MUH TRUMP SYCOPHANTS"

You're fricking stupid and you shouldn't post anymore.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116716 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:15 pm to
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You understand a free market means staying out of private business way


That would be libertarian. We don't have a libertarian govt. But on a scale of 1-10 with '1' being Stalinist Communism and '10' being true libertarian:

Trump is at 6
The GOP Congress is at 5
The Dems are at 1
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