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re: Why would Ohio St deserve to get in over OU?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:20 pm to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:20 pm to Dawgsontop34
Team - Record - Opponents’ % - Opponents’ opponents’ %
tOSU - .923 - .551 - .551
OU - .923 - .603 - .522
This is assuming all favorites win this weekend. My system gives the Sooners the slight edge. I don’t count MOV, but the fact that it favors OU bolsters the position that OU should make it.
The value of OU’s win over Army is going a bit unnoticed. That’s a quality win, believe it or not.
tOSU - .923 - .551 - .551
OU - .923 - .603 - .522
This is assuming all favorites win this weekend. My system gives the Sooners the slight edge. I don’t count MOV, but the fact that it favors OU bolsters the position that OU should make it.
The value of OU’s win over Army is going a bit unnoticed. That’s a quality win, believe it or not.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:24 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Michigan was way overrated and let’s be careful saying they were the number one D in the country... just look at those awful offenses they played against.....
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:24 pm to Dawgsontop34
Overrated State has a 4 TD loss to 6-6 Purdue. I saw that game, honestly it wasn’t that close.
That game will be a noose around their neck. Struggling vs Nebraska the next week tightened it.
Their only chance is for Bama to win the SECCG and Oklahoma to lose.
That game will be a noose around their neck. Struggling vs Nebraska the next week tightened it.
Their only chance is for Bama to win the SECCG and Oklahoma to lose.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:25 pm to xiv
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The value of OU’s win over Army is going a bit unnoticed. That’s a quality win, believe it or not.
One of the things I've wondered about since the CFP started is how do Army/Navy get entered in since they haven't played their last game before the selection. I assume they are just put in as they are as of that date, so Army is potentially a top 25 win.
If Navy blasts army and Army is 8-3, then that win for OU doesn't look as good. OSU played Navy in 2014 and I was wondering about it then as well.
I think MOV is exactly the same for OSU/OU (based on a site I looked at before)
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:27 pm to Buckeye06
Right now it’s who has had the better loss...... it’s def Oklahoma....
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:29 pm to dukke v
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Right now it’s who has had the better loss...... it’s def Oklahoma....
Why isn't it who has the better win...it's def OSU
Look, I think these teams are damn close, and the margins is what will decide it assuming a close OU win and a reasonable OSU win this weekend. I think OSU today is in good position based on what they just did, which is more impressive than anything OU has done. And yea, purdue is a damn bad loss
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:31 pm to Buckeye06
If Army or Navy is possibly in line for a big6 bowl, the committee waits a week to announce their field. This isn’t the case this year, so this game won’t affect anything. That’s the only Plan B scenario they have. Oklahoma’s fate will be determined before the Army/Navy game.
More on this: LINK
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:33 pm to xiv
I'm fine with this honestly, but is it "fair" that the rivalry game played after the selection which could impact playoff teams isn't counted in the formula?
As I said, I don't mind it but it's an interesting side debate if that ends up helping OU out
As I said, I don't mind it but it's an interesting side debate if that ends up helping OU out
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:34 pm to Buckeye06
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That wasn't a best win by a little. OSU beat a team in the playoff picture by 3 possession, and kneeled at the 5 yard line to end the game. That blows away any win by OU.
They are in the playoff picture because the Big 10 is fricking dog shite. They should never have been in the playoff picture, an also dog shite Notre Dame beat that same dog shite Michigan team.
You guys fricking suck at football. I'm a Tennessee fan, I know sucky football, so believe me. UCF deserves this opportunity 10x more than you bitches that lost to fricking Purdue by double digits. PURDUE
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:36 pm to TennesseeFan25
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I know sucky football
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TennesseeFan25
One thing we agree on
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:36 pm to dukke v
You go with OU over OSU.
Committee made it clear last year your worst performance is more important than your best.
You can't overcome a bad loss especially when there's the Nebraska and Maryland games to throw in as well.
Oklahoma's loss was respectable in a rivalry especially if they partner it by beating Texas for the championship. An overtime win against a ranked opponent isn't a negative like an overtime win against Maryland.
Not to mention Meyer and the DV situation with his assistant coach has been a black eye for OSU that won't help them.
What would be fun is the trolling if UGA beat Bama. Then both OU and OSU get left out after going 12-1 and winning their conference championship. Bama would get in at #4 (or possibly #3).
(We'd have the best loss of the 12-1's, and the strongest strength of schedule, and solid win margins in our other 12 games).
Committee made it clear last year your worst performance is more important than your best.
You can't overcome a bad loss especially when there's the Nebraska and Maryland games to throw in as well.
Oklahoma's loss was respectable in a rivalry especially if they partner it by beating Texas for the championship. An overtime win against a ranked opponent isn't a negative like an overtime win against Maryland.
Not to mention Meyer and the DV situation with his assistant coach has been a black eye for OSU that won't help them.
What would be fun is the trolling if UGA beat Bama. Then both OU and OSU get left out after going 12-1 and winning their conference championship. Bama would get in at #4 (or possibly #3).
(We'd have the best loss of the 12-1's, and the strongest strength of schedule, and solid win margins in our other 12 games).
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:38 pm to JB Bama
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You can't overcome a bad loss especially when there's the Nebraska and Maryland games to throw in as well.
Absolutely those should be counted, but shouldn't the Tech and Okie St. games for OU? Those teams are combined 11-13 just like Nebraska/Maryland are 9-15.
These teams have both thrown up a number of crap performances. OSU's best has been the better of the 2, and OSU's worst has been the worse of the 2
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:40 pm to Buckeye06
quote:NCAA members agree to this democratically, so it’s fair enough, I suppose.
I'm fine with this honestly, but is it "fair" that the rivalry game played after the selection which could impact playoff teams isn't counted in the formula?
quote:Probably hurts OU slightly, though. Army likely will win this game, slightly boosting their SOS by an amount that won’t be considered for their playoff chances.
As I said, I don't mind it but it's an interesting side debate if that ends up helping OU out
At any rate, tOSU and OU are in a virtual dead heat. The committee would never look at it like this, but maybe let’s look at each team vs the spread this week and factor that in? OU -7.5; tOSU -14
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:42 pm to Buckeye06
Let me say this 29 times:
29 point loss to a 6-6 team
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:45 pm to Jon Ham
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Let me say this 29 times:
Should i repeat the same line 62 times for how many points OSU just put up on statistically the #1 defense when the game was played?
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:46 pm to JB Bama
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Not to mention Meyer and the DV situation with his assistant coach has been a black eye for OSU that won't help them.
This shouldn't be, and won't be factored in at all.
The allegations of a dirtbag like McMurphy aren't going to be what keeps Ohio State out of the playoff. If that happens, it's because of the Purdue loss and nothing else.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:51 pm to Buckeye06
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Should i repeat the same line 62 times for how many points OSU just put up on statistically the #1 defense when the game was played?
It was a good win, and if not for that convincing win we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Those 62 points gave us a conversation, something to argue about since we have nothing better to do. But there’s no real argument in the CFP committee if OU wins Saturday.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:51 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
UCF should be 4th if they beat Memphis, but it won't happen.
Posted on 11/26/18 at 2:52 pm to Buckeye06
Really, abused me on that one.
Matter of fact that was more so of a rape, and oddly you didnt even cover it up.
Those are jokes aimed at how shitty OSU coaches and fans are
Matter of fact that was more so of a rape, and oddly you didnt even cover it up.
Those are jokes aimed at how shitty OSU coaches and fans are
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