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re: Russia and Ukraine Exchanging Fire in Kerch Strait
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:41 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:41 pm to Lima Whiskey
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West of the Dniepper, sure, they don’t like Russia. And that becomes more and more true the further west you go. East of the Dniepper, it’s very different. People are very pro Russian.
I’m on my phone, but google Party of Regions and election map.
It will show you how divide the country is, and how strong those divisions are. The Donbas voted for the Party of Regions at a ratio of 9 to 1.
That was in 2012.
That was in 2014. The POR fell apart in 2014, but he opposition bloc which is the successor to the Party of Regions only got 20-40% of the vote in the "russian-speaking" areas of Ukraine which is a 20% decrease in just 2 years.
The war has backfired big time and most Ukrainians are now pro-western. This is just one of many articles written in the last 4 years talking about how Putin's war has backfired and united Ukraine.
So basically, the only people that are still pro-russian are the 100,000 or so Ukrainian citizens that stayed in the DPR and LPR.
This post was edited on 11/25/18 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 11/25/18 at 11:24 pm to WeeWee
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So basically, the only people that are still pro-russian are the 100,000 or so Ukrainian citizens that stayed in the DPR and LPR.
No, this split goes a whole lot deeper, and is largely permanent.
Western Ukraine was cut from the Slavic world by the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth. It produced a split that’s reflected in the culture.
The coup in Kiev, and the ensuing war destroyed the Russophile block in Ukraine. Street violence, active repression by the right wing parties, the loss of tens of thousands of voters in the Donbas, all of these were important factors. But the war was the impossible issue. Their economic platform was built around cooperation with Moscow. That was impossible as long as the war continued.
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