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re: Seriously, why does offensive football have to be so difficult

Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:17 am to
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3472 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:17 am to
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I feel we got that with Canada. We felt uncomfortable because it was an unknown thing and we fired him. True he was a bit of a loose cannon but we could have at least tried to work things out better than we did. Just my two cents.


Orgeron never wanted Canada. He wanted to hire Ensminger the entire time but he couldn't justify it after he said he was going to get the best OC in the country. So, he hired Canada and then continually interfered so he could have justification to fire him. He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him. Aranda being the only exception but he knew he couldn't get rid of Aranda or people would absolutely riot.
Posted by tigahstar
Member since Nov 2018
323 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:19 am to
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Orgeron never wanted Canada. He wanted to hire Ensminger the entire time but he couldn't justify it after he said he was going to get the best OC in the country. So, he hired Canada and then continually interfered so he could have justification to fire him. He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him. Aranda being the only exception but he knew he couldn't get rid of Aranda or people would absolutely riot.



I get what you're saying but I'm gonna still hold out hope that O isn't this dysfunctional. He didn't do himself a favor by saying that he was in charge dammit. I'll admit that.
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:34 am to
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Orgeron never wanted Canada. He wanted to hire Ensminger the entire time but he couldn't justify it after he said he was going to get the best OC in the country. So, he hired Canada and then continually interfered so he could have justification to fire him. He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him. Aranda being the only exception but he knew he couldn't get rid of Aranda or people would absolutely riot.


Well said.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14269 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:01 am to
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He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him.


I've heard this from several buddies. They feel that Orgeron is terribly insecure and doesn't want to hire any coaches who might be perceived as being better/smarter than him, or end up replacing him. He can't do anything about Aranda, although I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to shift the blame to the defense in order to deflect criticism of Ensminger and the dumpster fire offense.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16038 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:10 am to
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Orgeron never wanted Canada. He wanted to hire Ensminger the entire time but he couldn't justify it after he said he was going to get the best OC in the country.


you got that part right

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So, he hired Canada and then continually interfered so he could have justification to fire him.

that doesn't seem to be true. He told him before the Troy game not to do the pre snap motion with the oline due to two freshman starting. Other than that I haven't heard about any interference. Canada just seemed to be somewhat of a thin skinned arse and could not get along with the rest of the staff or Orgeron. Seems that was the reason he was fired.

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He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him.


I know you don't like Ensminger and really like Aranda, but you dont't like the rest of the staff either? Seems to me he has a pretty good staff, whether they are a so called threat to him is not even relevant. Is there a particular position coach that you think he should of hired but didn't because they would be a threat to him? Like who are you talking about?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:24 am to
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koLSU86


Thanks for clearing that up. It isn't often someone comes in here after having extensive conversations with Orgeron and tells us what was discussed.

Your many personal one on one talks with him shed an entire new light.

Thank you so much.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3903 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:29 am to
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He seems to be surrounding himself with coaches that can't be a threat to him.


Nail on the head!Coach O wants "Yes men" around him. He knows Aranda & Raymond are untouchable when it comes to LSU fans.
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