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re: 13 year old student suspended, cuffed, arrested for being politically incorrect

Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:17 pm to
Quick google search comes up with a different but similar case Commonwealth vs Snyder

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“There is no authority requiring a school administrator not acting on behalf of law enforcement officials to furnish Miranda warnings. Even if we were to assume that, during the questioning in the principal’s office, the environment was coercive because Snyder was in custody (or because his freedom was significantly restricted) and that, therefore, Miranda warnings would be required if the questioning had been by the police (see Commonwealth v. Bryant,390 Mass. 729, 737 [1984]), Principal Day and Assistant Principal Canning were not law enforcement officials or agents of such officials. The Miranda rule does not apply to a private citizen or school administrator who is acting neither as an instrument of the police nor as an agent of the police pursuant to a scheme to elicit statements from the defendant by coercion or guile. See Commonwealth v. Allen,395 Mass. 448, 453-454 (1985); Commonwealth v. A Juvenile, supra at 278-279. The fact that the school administrators had every intention of turning the marihuana over to the police does not make them agents or instrumentalities of the police in questioning Snyder.”
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40346 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:19 pm to
So looking at that case law I quoted, (The SCOTUS punted this apparently), the Administrators do not need to Miranda the kid, but police do.


Dawg is right. Tell your kids to not say shite until a parent or lawyer show up.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:20 pm to
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The fact that the school administrators had every intention of turning the marihuana


In that case the administration had an actual crime and evidence? And no mention of how long did they hold the kid without any attempt to notify the parents? How is this comparable?
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