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re: Make your bold Pels prediction for next season
Posted on 8/18/18 at 4:56 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 8/18/18 at 4:56 pm to TigerinATL
So, Moore qualifies as a two way player? Does Hill?
If Moore's 3-pt percentage dips to 34% this year, is he still a two way player?
Where are the official rankings of these two way players and I still need an answer to my question of what it means to say Harden is a better player than Jrue but that Jrue is a better "two way player"?
Its just so unnecessary and arbitrary. But if you want to say, "X is a guy you have to take off the court in Y matchups" - I am fine with that. But even these guys like Harden that don't qualify for this mythical "two way" distinction (like Harden) - he doesn't come off the court on D in crunch time. So that doesn't apply. If Harden is on the court for the most important defensive possessions, how is he not a "two way" player.
I guess I need a firm definition for a player who does not apply for this "two way" distinction.
If Moore's 3-pt percentage dips to 34% this year, is he still a two way player?
Where are the official rankings of these two way players and I still need an answer to my question of what it means to say Harden is a better player than Jrue but that Jrue is a better "two way player"?
Its just so unnecessary and arbitrary. But if you want to say, "X is a guy you have to take off the court in Y matchups" - I am fine with that. But even these guys like Harden that don't qualify for this mythical "two way" distinction (like Harden) - he doesn't come off the court on D in crunch time. So that doesn't apply. If Harden is on the court for the most important defensive possessions, how is he not a "two way" player.
I guess I need a firm definition for a player who does not apply for this "two way" distinction.
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Posted on 8/18/18 at 5:39 pm to Crewz
Okay this is easy.
Good or better offensively or defensively and below average at opposite position = bad two way player
Good or better at offense and defense = good two way player.
It's not hard there bud.
Good or better offensively or defensively and below average at opposite position = bad two way player
Good or better at offense and defense = good two way player.
It's not hard there bud.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 8:25 am to Crewz
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So, Moore qualifies as a two way player? Does Hill? If Moore's 3-pt percentage dips to 34% this year, is he still a two way player?
Where are the official rankings of these two way players and I still need an answer to my question of what it means to say Harden is a better player than Jrue but that Jrue is a better "two way player"?
If Hill were a 2 way player his contract would have positive value. It’s hard to say about Moore, he can score in more ways than open 3s, but his efficiency plummeted after Boogie went down. Can Randle create the same easy looks to keep him useful on offense?
The rankings you want to see are being published by the markets in the contracts players are and aren’t getting.
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It’s just so unnecessary and arbitrary
5 years ago you’d be right but the league has evolved around these so called 2 way players. It’s why Danny Ainge was valuing Jae Crowder on a similar level with the Brooklyn pick and why he almost traded 4 1sts for Justice Winslow once upon a time. This isn’t linguistic imprecision but linguistic change as the NBA changes.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 8:26 am
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