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Do Black Lives Matter in this instance?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:13 pm
2 men sentenced to probation for gang-rape of 13-year-old girl, triggering backlash
Rape a kid, get to continue playing video games
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Like two other defendants before them Tommy Williams, 20, and Clarence Williams, 19, each received a minimum of 10 years of sex offender intensive supervised probation, with a maximum of life on probation.
The family of the young victim was outraged after learning the sentence Tuesday. "There was six of them and they gang-raped my granddaughter," said the girl's grandfather, who got in a shouting match with the Williams' family members and was forced to leave. He protested the plea bargain, angrily stating the men should do time.
The crime happened in late 2016 at the Stonebrook Terrance Apartments on the 4000 block of Tappan Drive. The child reported the crime to police six days before Christmas that year. She told investigators she knew one of the suspects, who invited her to the apartment to play video games.
Rape a kid, get to continue playing video games
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:14 pm to idlewatcher
depends on the race of the girl.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:15 pm to idlewatcher
Street justice does.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:16 pm to MorbidTheClown
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depends on the race of the girl.
Very dark.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:16 pm to idlewatcher
when do they start college?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:16 pm to idlewatcher
They belong UNDER the jail
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:16 pm to idlewatcher
On the bright side, the chances that these guys don't almost immediately violate their probation is zero.
Still total bullshite, though.
Still total bullshite, though.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:20 pm to northshorebamaman
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On the bright side, the chances that these guys don't almost immediately violate their probation is zero.
Agreed. What a sick judge though. This poor little girl will be tormented for eternity while these scumbags are out doing whatever.
Very sad and I hope she can somehow come to grips with the slap in the face.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:21 pm to northshorebamaman
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On the bright side, the chances that these guys don't almost immediately violate their probation is zero.
and hopefully karma is a bitch and this guy is their cell mate:
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:21 pm to idlewatcher
BLM only matter when it can get them on CNN
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:21 pm to idlewatcher
If they mattered so much, then why dont they ever do anything with them besides aspire to be athletes and rappers..but settle for gang members when that doesnt work out?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:23 pm to idlewatcher
This case has been discussed here when the first two got probation.
It's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be, fwiw.
ETA - Found the article that provided updates (The one in the OP is 4 months old). There was video of the incident and the judge dropped the forcible rape charges as a result. The adults in the case are looking at statutory rape, not forcible rape. The video was on a cell phone that was locked and just recently found.
ETA.2 - For clarity:
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It's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be, fwiw.
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Prior to the sentencing, Tyron Williams gave a brief statement. He said, "I apologize to [the victim] and her family for what happened. If I knew she was underage, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place."
ETA - Found the article that provided updates (The one in the OP is 4 months old). There was video of the incident and the judge dropped the forcible rape charges as a result. The adults in the case are looking at statutory rape, not forcible rape. The video was on a cell phone that was locked and just recently found.
ETA.2 - For clarity:
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New developments were presented in court Tuesday in the case where six people were accused of gang raping a 13-year-old girl back in December 2016.
Charges were dismissed for the teenage defendant in the case, who was the only minor to be among the charged.
New video evidence may change the fate of some of the other defendants in this case too.
"In April of [20]17 we were provided information, this juvenile potentially had a film on his phone of some of the incident, in open court, we asked the defense attorney to give us access to that phone. The police have has that phone in their custody but it's encrypted and it has passwords on it. And it's an iPhone and as you know [Apple] is not being cooperative with law enforcement across the country," said District Attorney Dan May.
New technology called Gray Key allows the police department to get into the locked phone with a judge's warrant.
"We're trying to do that balance where we protect people's rights as well as do our best to our victims, so in this case, it took a little while for technology to catch up," said Colorado Springs Police Chief Pete Carey.
In the last 10 days, police were able to access a cell phone video that seems to contradict some of her claims.
"Justice doesn't always mean making a prosecution, or a good conviction," said Carey.
The video records the girl's voice as she "appears to be laughing and giggling and engaging in consensual sexual acts."
"Potentially withholding this information could be exculpatory - and help out this particular defendant - but may be inculpatory for others," said DA May.
In court, the judge dismissed the teen's case following the new evidence.
"When we were able to get into to some of the messages and the video and things like that, it worked out very well. By worked out very well I mean justice was served; so this is a good thing," said Carey.
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This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:24 pm to SEClint
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If they mattered so much, then why dont they ever do anything with them besides aspire to be athletes and rappers..but settle for gang members when that doesnt work out?
Looking forward to Malcolm Jenkins paying for a full ride to college for this young gal. I'm sure he already has his people on it.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:25 pm to slackster
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If I knew she was underage, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place."
"I thought we were gang-raping an adult". Not really the best excuse.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:25 pm to slackster
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If I knew she was underage, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place."
so, he was ok with raping her if she was older?
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:31 pm to idlewatcher
nvmd
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:32 pm to northshorebamaman
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"I thought we were gang-raping an adult". Not really the best excuse.
No of course not, and I'm not trying to defend the incident, just pointing out there were some inconsistencies.
4 of the 6 took plea deals, the oldest went to court and was ultimately convicted, and one is still awaiting trial.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:34 pm to idlewatcher
All lives matter
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:35 pm to slackster
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No of course not, and I'm not trying to defend the incident, just pointing out there were some inconsistencies.
Not trying to be an a-hole but I'm not sure how that excuse is an inconsistency.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:35 pm to idlewatcher
Who knew Derrius Guice had a twin that goes by Clarence Williams?
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