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Without evidence, Trump claims documents confirm misconduct

Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted by djmicrobe
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:42 pm
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The spin by the media is insane. Really?!? Does the media really believe that there is no evidence in the FISA warrants? Most of the info in the warrants are lies. Why didn't the MSM print this: "Without evidence RR called for a SC to investigate Trump" ... after 500 days they have still found no evidence to justify the FISA warrants.

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President Donald Trump asserted without evidence Sunday that newly released documents relating to the wiretapping of his onetime campaign adviser Carter Page "confirm with little doubt" that intelligence agencies misled the court that approved the warrant.

But lawmakers from both political parties said that the documents don't show wrongdoing and that they even appear to undermine some previous claims by top Republicans on the basis for obtaining a warrant against Page.

Visible portions of the heavily redacted documents, released Saturday under the Freedom of Information Act, show the FBI telling the court that Page "has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government." The agency also told the court that "the FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government."

The documents were part of officials' application for a warrant to the secretive foreign intelligence surveillance court, which signed off on surveilling Page.

Trump tweeted Sunday on the documents: "As usual they are ridiculously heavily redacted but confirm with little doubt that the Department of 'Justice' and FBI misled the courts. Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!"


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While the documents confirm that the FBI relied, in part, on information from Steele to obtain the initial warrant, they also show how the FBI informed the court of his likely motivation.

A page-long footnote in the warrant application lays out the FBI's assessment of Steele's history and the likely interest of his backer, adding that despite the political concern, the bureau believed at least some of his report to be "credible."

Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff of California, a ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, said the documents detail "just why the FBI was so concerned that Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power."

"It was a solid application and renewals signed by four different judges appointed by three different Republican presidents," Schiff said on ABC's "This Week."

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida also broke with Trump, saying he didn't think the FBI did anything wrong in obtaining warrants against Page.

"I have a different view on this issue than the president and the White House," Rubio said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation." ''They did not spy on the campaign from anything and everything that I have seen. You have an individual here who has openly bragged about his ties to Russia and Russians."


FIXED IT FOR YOU SCHIFF:
Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff of California, a ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee, said the documents detail "WITHOUT EVIDENCE the FBI was concerned that Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power."
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 12:14 am
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
10017 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:48 pm to
People need to start calling this what it is.
COUP

Wars have been started for less and so far we get Tweets. Time for action. Start with Sessions. Do something or Fire him Monday at noon live on TV
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53231 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:48 pm to
Fire Sessions Fire RR, frick this
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26310 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:49 pm to
Really? Then WHY is Page running loose? WHY hasn't Page been indicted?

ANSWER THAT.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16561 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:50 pm to
Without evidence, the left has accused Trump of Russian collusion.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65414 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:52 pm to
Yeah, they irony of the OP question, has to be sarcasm? Right?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
36296 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:52 pm to
The deep state has opened Pandora's Box. I fear this will not end well. For anyone.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:53 pm to
He’s using good ol’ fashion common fricking sense.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

lawmakers from both political parties said


Well duh.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37177 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:54 pm to
Well Zeke Miller is an idiot. The evidence is the documentation.

He would be correct if he said “without explanation” — those are entirely two differnent things.

Perhaps if Zeke read the documents with a critical eye he would understand Trump’s statement.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:56 pm to
My reaction was "Who are these yahoos?"

and it was Yahoo

haha, no lie
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
101661 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:56 pm to
Isn’t Yahoo the news sauce for the Steele bullshite dossier?
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:57 pm to
Yes.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Without evidence
Isn't this how the whole investigation started? Without evidence?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27286 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:05 pm to
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President Donald Trump asserted without evidence
He IS the evidence. He knows he didn't do anything so his calling out to the facts ...is the truth.
Posted by uniq
Member since Jul 2018
65 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:16 pm to
I'm amazed Adam Schiff hasn't been dragged from his home in the middle of the night and strung up like he deserves. I'm honestly fricking amazed.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:18 pm to
No collusion!!!

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Visible portions of the heavily redacted documents, released Saturday under the Freedom of Information Act, show the FBI telling the court that Page "has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government." The agency also told the court that "the FBI believes Page has been the subject of targeted recruitment by the Russian government." 


Oh wait...about that
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73462 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:19 pm to
So why isn’t page in jail or a target of probe?

Do you know what the word “believes” means?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:27 pm to
What do you think a FISA court order is? It's a surveillance probe. Keep spinning though
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73462 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:29 pm to
Guess they don't teach reading comprehension in ghetto high schools.

If FBI believes carter page colluded with russia in 2016....why is he roaming free right now?
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