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re: FISA Application Breakdown
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:47 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:47 pm to LSUconvert
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Should probably stop electing republicans, then.
Sure
But my level of give a frick is going to be the same as Shenequa in the hood or Tammy Sue in the trailer park.
You think I should work harder for some POS that doesn't GAF?
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:48 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
So instead of acknowledging the very obvious misrepresentations and illegalities, you nit picked that the redacted sections got bigger, and just assumed this means they found more rationale to justify the renewals?
You have no clue what’s behind those redactions. The additions could be nothing but procedural crap and chronicles of their actions during the warrant period.
I posted facts. You’re making up a convenient scenario based on assumption, while trying to avoid acknowledging all the other shady shite that can easily be seen.
GTFO or debate the actual known substance.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:53 pm to BeefDawg
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This is called "circular sourcing", and it's absurdly illegal.
OK, here's the problem. It doesn't matter to the US FedGov whether something is illegal, so long as it advances the Globalist Leftist Elite Establishment Agenda. When that eventuality arises, the GLEEA Exception applies and that makes it "Legal".
So, you see? It's not illegal, because it's for a good cause -- i.e. getting rid of Trump.
I'm glad I could help everyone today who is troubled and disturbed by this.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:56 pm to HubbaBubba
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Any other country, and these people would have been all rounded up already. What's it going to take?
Secession.
Because the United States of America is not going to fix this problem.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:58 pm to MrLarson
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Maybe our government is too far gone to repair.
It has.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 3:59 pm to lsuoilengr
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Is it just me? If a group of son’s of bitches doesn’t get some kind of jail time or serious penalty over this.....it’s every man for himself. This is officially Banana Republic in your face, with a giant middle finger. At which point...who gets worked up when these fricks start dropping from long range Justice? Oh well. You do NOT get to do this...get caught red handed..and live happily ever after on a gold plated government pension. frick no. They are setting up for bad mojo in our land. I can see this in other places..with different cultures. Bend over , Rover...it just the way it is. But not here. Too many with the tools, skills and desire to dish out Ultimate Justice. When it happens...I’ll be sad for our loss...but cheer the event. Comey, Brennan, Rice, Clinton...him and her....and that leather face frick Phil Mudd for a cherry on top. Joe and Mika waking up one morning with a fricking horse head in the bed. This is not going to end well.
Secession!
Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:08 pm to BeefDawg
quote:No, you didn't. Your first main point was a fabrication.
I posted facts.
In fact, the sections of the apps that include Page's contacts and actions went from 5 pages in the initial app to 32 by the last one.
Your assertion that
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there is none of that in any of these renewals. It's virtually 1 application with 3 identical renewals still using nothing but the justifications from the original application.
is wrong.
You shouldn't get mad when someone challenges your story with facts. You should read the linked thread.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:24 pm to JuiceTerry
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a fabrication.
The basis for this warrant, the subsequent investigation and all things involved were to fabricate false information on the President. You like this being done so there is that.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:33 pm to JuiceTerry
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No, you didn't. Your first main point was a fabrication.
In fact, the sections of the apps that include Page's contacts and actions went from 5 pages in the initial app to 32 by the last one.
Yes, I did. Based on what we can actually see and not some make believe fantasy of what might be behind the redactions.
Do you realize these FISA warrants allow for 3 degrees of contact?
This means they get to collect and surveil all of Page’s communications. (1st degree)
Then they get to collect and surveil all of the communications of anyone he made contact with. (2nd degree)
Then they get to collect and surveil all of the communications of anyone each 2nd degree made contact with. (3rd degree)
So that 5 pages to 32 pages section entailing Page’s contacts and actions literally may be nothing more than a list of 2nd and 3rd degree contacts and background information explaining who each person is, and that’s all.
Again, you have no damn clue what is behind those redactions.
But you want to also know why we know they didn’t add any additional rationale of any factual substance to the renewals?
Because Carter Page is still a free man and hasn’t been charged with anything after more than a year since he was put under sweeping surveillance and all his communications collected and searched for proof of wrongdoing.
It’s freaking illogical to suggest they found wrongdoing to supplement into the renewal applications... when he still hasn’t been charged with anything.
How this simple shred of logic is escaping you is astounding. Unless you’re either a moron, or being willfully obtuse.
Which is it?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 4:49 pm to BeefDawg
This is the best “reporting” I’ve seen since - well, quite frankly, ever.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 5:30 pm to BeefDawg
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And this is actually a big issue. FISA renewals are supposed to incorporate new found evidence procured from the original and each subsequent renewal to secure each proceeding renewal. But there is none of that in any of these renewals. It's virtually 1 application with 3 identical renewals still using nothing but the justifications from the original application. That's a big no no right there.
That is not true. Each of the renewals is longer thn the previous warrants.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 5:56 pm to texridder
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That is not true. Each of the renewals is longer thn the previous warrants.
Yes, way to be behind in the discussion. This has been addressed.
In fact, just look at my previous 2 posts replying to JuiceFairy.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:12 pm to BeefDawg
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BeefDawg on 7/22/18 at 6:43 am to TBoy
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What propaganda source did you copy that from?
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I read the entire FISA application and pieced this all together myself.
Notice all the images are on my personal Photobucket account.
Way to be an assclown though.
This should be copied and sprinkled through the thread to keep perspective on who's who
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:26 pm to BeefDawg
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BeefDawg
Thanks for this. Well done.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 6:41 pm to BeefDawg
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is has been addressed.
Without a shred of intellectual consistency. Apparently your assumptions are completely valid, and others are not. That being said, you've admitted that your assertion was false anyway.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:02 pm to JuiceTerry
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Without a shred of intellectual consistency. Apparently your assumptions are completely valid, and others are not.
That being said, you've admitted that your assertion was false anyway.
This from the only guy here making pure baseless assumptions that just happen to fit his narrative.
You just keep being you, JT.
We’ll just keep wondering if it’s a chemical imbalance in the brains of Lefties that makes you folks so deranged.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:10 pm to BeefDawg
Pointing out to you that each fisa renewal had an average of 9 new pages of info in the sections about Page is the opposite of a baseless assertion. It's a stone cold fact. And it completely refutes your first main assertion.
You should edit
You should edit
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:19 pm to JuiceTerry
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Pointing out to you that each fisa renewal had an average of 9 new pages of info in the sections about Page is the opposite of a baseless assertion.
If the 27 pages are actually full of information suggesting Page was working with the Russian, where is the indictment?
Can you not honestly see there is something very wrong with this entire investigation?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:20 pm to Rebel
He does.
Just won't tell us.
Just won't tell us.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 7:37 pm to JuiceTerry
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Pointing out to you that each fisa renewal had an average of 9 new pages of info in the sections about Page is the opposite of a baseless assertion. It's a stone cold fact. And it completely refutes your first main assertion.
As I said, each renewal is supposed to have new evidence acquired from the previous one supporting why the warrant should be extended.
These renewals DO NOT SHOW THIS. Period. You cannot refute this.
Assuming this evidence is under the additional pages of content that are all 100% redacted is not valid. A guess or assumption is not fact.
Those pages could be a multitude of things other than evidence. And I’ve even given you a very possible, and logical, example of what that could be.
If those pages did contain new evidence to support each renewal, then why is Page still a free man?
Because Page was never charged with anything, it is almost a certainty that those additional pages hold nothing that resembles newly acquired evidence of wrongdoing.
This is as simplistic of logical deductive reasoning as could probably exist, and yet here you are ignoring it and making convenient assumptions to soothe your bias.
You’re a sad little partisan hack. Use your head for once.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 7:39 pm
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