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re: Tom DeLonge, his company "To The Stars" and the Aliens phenomenon.

Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:41 pm to
#1 on the list of things i won't be shocked about:
ET presence in our solar system
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:02 pm to
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kingbob
It's infuriating, the amount of legit discoveries are made to seem fictional thanks to the ancient alien dipshits.

Back to the cell with you, heather.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:04 pm to
Wrote a thread about. Like to hear it, hear it goes...

LINK

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NY Times: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program, page 3 - Space Force


TL:DR - we may have a tax payer funded secret space program...
That is going to be unveiled to the public...

NY Times

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Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program



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By HELENE COOPER, RALPH BLUMENTHAL and LESLIE KEAN
DECEMBER 16, 2017

WASHINGTON — In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find. Which was how the Pentagon wanted it. For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.


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“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.” The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves. The Navy pilots can be heard trying to understand what they are seeing. “There’s a whole fleet of them,” one exclaims. Defense officials declined to release the location and date of the incident.


Vid at site/article

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By 2009, Mr. Reid decided that the program had made such extraordinary discoveries that he argued for heightened security to protect it. “Much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace-related findings,” Mr. Reid said in a letter to William Lynn III, a deputy defense secretary at the time, requesting that it be designated a “restricted special access program” limited to a few listed officials. A 2009 Pentagon briefing summary of the program prepared by its director at the time asserted that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact,” and that the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. Mr. Reid’s request for the special designation was denied.




In the background of this:

npr

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Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense

December 8, 201712:20 PM ET


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"The Defense Department is starting the first agency-wide financial audit in its history," the Pentagon's news service says, announcing that it's undertaking an immense task that has been sought, promised and delayed for years.

Of the tally that is starting this week, chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana W. White said, "It demonstrates our commitment to fiscal responsibility and maximizing the value of every taxpayer dollar that is entrusted to us."

"Beginning in 2018, our audits will occur annually, with reports issued Nov. 15," the Defense Department's comptroller, David L. Norquist, said.




As this relates to this (which I posted about earlier in the thread):



msu article about above

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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015.

The work of Mark Skidmore and his team, which included digging into government websites and repeated queries to U.S. agencies that went unanswered, coincided with the Office of Inspector General, at one point, disabling the links to all key documents showing the unsupported spending. (Luckily, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents.)

Now, the Department of Defense has announced it will conduct the first department-wide, independent financial audit in its history (read the Dec. 7 announcement here).

The Defense Department did not say specifically what led to the audit. But the announcement came four days after Skidmore discussed his team’s findings on USAWatchdog, a news outlet run by former CNN and ABC News correspondent Greg Hunter.


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Skidmore and Fitts agreed to work together to investigate the issue further. Over the summer, two MSU graduate students searched government websites, especially the website of the Office of Inspector General, looking for similar documents dating to 1998. They found documents indicating a total $21 trillion in undocumented adjustments over the 1998-2015 period. (The original government documents and a report describing the issue can be found here.)

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:11 pm to
Huff Post

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Military Report: UFOs May Have Attempted Rendezvous With Giant Undersea Object
Ed Mazza 1 day ago


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New details are emerging about a UFO sighting recorded by the U.S. military in the waters off the coast of California 14 years ago.

The 2004 incident involving the “Tic Tac” UFO, named because it was a fast-moving white object that resembled one of the mints, was first revealed late last year by The New York Times and The Washington Post.

KLAS, the CBS affiliate in Las Vegas, obtained a copy of a report “prepared by and for the military” in 2009 that details multiple interactions with anomalous aerial vehicles (AAVs) over two weeks in late 2004. The report also discussed the high speed and advanced cloaking capabilities that allowed the AAVs to evade observation and detection.

“The AAVs would descend ‘very rapidly’ from approximately 60,000 feet down to approximately 50 feet in a matter of seconds,” the report noted. Pilots indicated there may have been something in the water as well. One pilot detailed a disturbance up to the size of a football field:


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The disturbed area also resembled shoal water around “a barely submerged reef or island,” but as the pilot flew away, he could see that the disturbance had cleared and seas calmed. Although he never made visual contact with whatever caused the disturbance, the report stated that it may have been caused by an AAV, which was unseen due to cloaking “or invisible to the human eye.”

Another pilot described a disturbance beneath the water of an AAV that “looked like frothy waves and foam almost as if the water was boiling.”

A submarine in the vicinity did not detect anything unusual underwater. If an object was indeed in the Pacific Ocean, “it would represent a highly advanced capability given the advanced capability of our sensors.”


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The videos of the “Tic Tac” UFO caused a sensation when they were first released last year as the Times reported on a secret Pentagon UFO program that has now concluded with no evidence of alien life visiting the Earth. However, Luis Elizondo, the former military intelligence official who led the program, indicated that there was more information the public had not yet seen.

“My personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone,” he told CNN last December. Other possible explanations include advanced capabilities by the U.S. military or foreign governments that have not yet been made public.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:18 pm to
Sorry if duplicate info (I am taking highlights from other threads that are interesting)

Delonge /Podesta connection came to light in the WL Podesta E-mail dump

I have listened to Delonge and read his book. There have been a series of mainstream articles/ individuals come forth to support his claims. I linked them earlier in the thread.

Delonge website with updates

Delonge links the “Phenomena” with metaphysical sources (think gods of old). He specifically mentions Greek gods in interviews. His book connects many “disparate” disciplines as all being part of the same phenomena

Including:
Human development
Religion
Consciousness
Shamanism
Sorcery/Incantations
Channeling
Manifesting of things in the sky

Even if it all bullshite, it is a very interesting read.

Even more interesting are the people who have come out of the shadows to bolster his claims.

The name that comes to mind is Robert Bigelow
Guess where his interest lie...

NY Times

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Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program
??????? ??????? Leer en español
By HELENE COOPER, RALPH BLUMENTHAL and LESLIE KEANDEC. 16, 2017




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The shadowy program — parts of it remain classified — began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reid’s, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.

On CBS’s “60 Minutes” in May, Mr. Bigelow said he was “absolutely convinced” that aliens exist and that U.F.O.s have visited Earth.





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Mr. Reid said his interest in U.F.O.s came from Mr. Bigelow. In 2007, Mr. Reid said in the interview, Mr. Bigelow told him that an official with the Defense Intelligence Agency had approached him wanting to visit Mr. Bigelow’s ranch in Utah, where he conducted research.




Skinwalker Ranch...

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Contracts obtained by The Times show a congressional appropriation of just under $22 million beginning in late 2008 through 2011. The money was used for management of the program, research and assessments of the threat posed by the objects.

The funding went to Mr. Bigelow’s company, Bigelow Aerospace, which hired subcontractors and solicited research for the program.

Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes. In addition, researchers spoke to military service members who had reported sightings of strange aircraft.

“We’re sort of in the position of what would happen if you gave Leonardo da Vinci a garage-door opener,” said Harold E. Puthoff, an engineer who has conducted research on extrasensory perception for the C.I.A. and later worked as a contractor for the program. “First of all, he’d try to figure out what is this plastic stuff. He wouldn’t know anything about the electromagnetic signals involved or its function.”





Just wanted to connect those dots to Skinwalker Ranch...



Remember, some folks like to use “the stars” to drive culture. It may no coincidence that a musician was chosen to be the messenger (a very common theme in the Q thread)

The question is intent and sincerity...

Posted by Corch Urban Myers
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:17 pm to
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What do aliens look like?


Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:52 pm to
That’s what I was gonna ask you if you had. I saw it the other day, thought it might be interesting.
Posted by stinkdawg
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

kingbob

My man!
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:24 pm to
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There are many different species and factions: Humans from prior space-fairing civilizations (nordics, hindu, and mayans) Avians who have similar proportions to humans but have bird heads (these were feathered gods in ancient times) Reptilians (snake people) that sorta look like Sleestacks, but more refined Grays, the classic looking aliens from tv and movies that are short and look like children. They are essentially a slave species used to man ships. Flying saucers are essentially scout ships/small transports.


You forgot the most important ones.

The shapeshifters
Posted by Hopsondawg22
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:27 pm to
I know right, the space force is gonna be lit!
Posted by Pdubntrub
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Avians who have similar proportions to humans but have bird heads (these were feathered gods in ancient times)

Could be idk I assumed people tripping came up with most of that stuff.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:05 am to
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Avians who have similar proportions to humans but have bird heads (these were feathered gods in ancient times)


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Could be idk I assumed people tripping came up with most of that stuff.


A lot of people thought the Great Deluge was a myth, despite nearly every ancient culture having a flood legend. Now, there is scientific evidence to support it. Nearly every ancient culture has a "myth" of "gods" descending from the sky. Ancient people wrote what they saw and experienced, or what was seen and experienced by their ancestors and passed down. They wrote and described what happened as well as they could understand. To think that all these ancient cultures across the world that had no connection somehow came up with strikingly similar "gods from the sky" myths just seems foolish.
Posted by indianswim
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:09 am to
This is starting to feel like a DawgfaninCa thread.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:23 am to
Obama was first alien President?.........

Absolutely dude was from outer space .........










Posted by indianswim
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:24 am to
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Obama was first alien President


And now we have our first time traveler.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:26 am to
I saw DeLonge on a Joe Rogan podcast.

Dude is nuttier than squirrel shite.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:17 am to
Dude, they have always been alien life on the Earth. We even cut deals with then from time to time.

One particular group was helping the fricking NAZIS in WW2. The SS symbol is a black sun, master race shite came from the vril society, and the Thule. Both believed they were in contact with aliens, and the ancient alien theory. NASA was built on the technology we got from the German scientist after the war, they kinda took over. (Look all this up, it’s there)

It’s been going on forever. It’s nothing new. I honestly think they just get bored and come here to frick around or frick with us. Who knows. Maybe Earth really is a special place they like to visit, Like the Great Barrier Reef to us or something.

As long as they don’t frick with me, don’t care. The quieter it is the better we are. Very few have security clearance to deal with this kind of shite, way above POTUS, and the ones that do that I know have told me I am much better off not knowing and I have no reason to doubt them.

Just better to watch ancient aliens and not think too deeply about it.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:55 am to
Good stuff in this thread, thanks to all who contribute, I'm still reading through some posts from Thine
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 5:42 pm to
https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a22025557/world-ufo-day-2018/

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70 Years and Counting, the UFO Phenomenon Is as Mysterious As Ever
Seventy years after the sighting that started it all, what are unidentified flying objects and where do they come from?

By Kyle Mizokami
Jul 2, 2018
641



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On June 24th 1947, civilian pilot Kenneth Arnold was flying his private airplane over the Pacific Northwest when he suddenly realized he was not alone in the skies. Near Mt. Rainier, Washington Arnold spotted “nine objects, glowing bright bluish-white” flying nearby. Eight of the objects were roughly disc-shaped, while the ninth larger object resembled a crescent. The nine objects were flying in a v-shaped formation.

Arnold estimated the craft were flying somewhere around 1,200 miles an hour and that he was witnessing a military exercise. He also compared their motion to a “saucer if you skipped it across water.” The objects obviously did not resemble any known aircraft and at the time there were no aircraft capable of flying in formation at Mach 1.5—Chuck Yeager would break the sound barrier only two months later.

The press misconstrued the “saucer” comment, applying it to their physical description, and the term flying saucer was born. Obviously, since the objects were beyond the ability of humans, newly minted UFO experts declared the objects had to be from space and evidence of life on other planets. Though in strict terms, a UFO is merely a mysterious flying craft and so is not inherently tied to the idea of visiting aliens.

"Could other stars harbor other forms of life, and could they be more advanced than ours?" If there are aliens, UFO thinkers speculated, it would stand to reason that at least some of them are millennia more advanced than we are, leaping across the universe in the blink of an eye.


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Is the Government Hiding Something?
If you take these experiences to be even remotely true, the logic leads you to an inevitable conclusion: The U.S. government knows far more than it lets on about flying saucers. One conviction among UFOlogists is that the U.S. government not only knows more about aliens than it lets on, but that actively cooperates with them. According to some conspiracy theories, the federal government, particularly the national security apparatus, allows aliens to maintain underground bases, such as the one allegedly underneath Dulce, New Mexico, or in the mountain next to the famous Area 51 in Nevada.

Another, more plausible theory is that a secret arm of the U.S. government achieved a technological breakthrough to the point where its craft are mistaken for the work of aliens. This technology, proponents explain, is so advanced the government is keeping it under wraps. Still, if Kenneth Arnold had seen top-secret military aircraft in the 1940s, why does the U.S. military not have anything like his “flying saucers” 70 years later?


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The military's engagement with flying saucers isn't just conspiratorial. In December 2017, The New York Times published an account involving U.S. Navy fighter pilots and their encounter with unidentified flying objects. The encounter, which took place in 2004, involved UFOs sighted on radar, by pilots themselves, and actual video of the mysterious objects. Six months later the account was followed up by another, also involving Navy pilots, that reportedly took place in 2015.

The Navy sightings were some of the best accounts in decades, and involved some of the most highly trained pilots and advanced sensors in service anywhere. If the objects involved in the sightings were real and were not U.S. government property their technological superiority could be a real threat to our national security.

Yet despite all of this the Navy has offered no explanation for the events and appears disinterested in investigating the matter further.
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