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re: The Red Hen has not reopened since refusing to serve Sarah Huckabee Sanders last week

Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:48 am to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:48 am to
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The Sanders group dined at (and were allegedly pursued to and protested at) the Southern Inn, which is a nice restaurant on Main Street. It is not a B&B
Ok

Are you freakin retarded? I never stated that the B&B and the Southern Inn were the same thing

Here's what we know for a FACT:

The rest of the Sanders party confided that they were harrased by the Red Hen owner to the B&B owner/host. (Why they would make this up I have no idea)

Someone confronted them with a "shame" sign at the Southern Inn.(per Snopes)How in the world did these people holding the sign know that these folks were associated with Sanders?KInda strange,don't ya think?

The owner and waiter have both changed their story about Sanders being asked to leave.Not gonna link but you can look up.

The Red Hen owner (Stephanie Wilkerson) "encountered" the Huckabee party outside the Southern Inn (Gee,what are the odds being that it's a "few hundred feet away" from the her restaurant)

IF you can actually piece together these facts I think
any objective person would think that it wasn't some strange coincidence that the Red Owner did more than "encounter" the Sanders party later on in the evening.

This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 8:50 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:46 am to
AGAIN, I note that you do not link to ANYTHING in support of what you are saying, but I have become accustomed to that. Let's take your assertions "one at a time."
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Are you freakin retarded?When did I ever say the B&B and the Southern Inn were the same thing? You fricking idiot
No, I am not retarded. Most people think I am reasonably-bright, even when they disagree with me. I suppose some people have trouble accepting that not everyone who disagrees with you is a dimwit.

I won't bother with giving you the actual number, because you would doubtless argue with me, call me a liar or throw further epithets my way. Let's just avoid that sort of childishness, shall we?

At 12:21pm on 05-July, you said "Huckabee's story CONFIRMED by the man who hosted them" and linked to a Fox segment containing an interview with Justin Peery (the owner of Good Place Farms, the B&B). You conveniently deleted from your quote of my post the following: "There is no indication that he (Peery) was present at Southern Inn."

In other words, you were alleging that the inkeeper could "confirm" events at the Southern Inn, when he was actually 13 miles away at the time.

He was not "confirming" anything. You cannot "confirm" something as to which you have no personal knowledge. He was simply repeating something that he had heard. We will examine his account in response to your next point.

You probably got this term from the Fox segment. Yes, the Fox anchor used that word, before cutting to the Peery interview. In true Fox fashion, however, neither the anchor NOR Peery asserted that he had any actual knowledge of events at the Southern Inn.
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The rest of the Sanders party confided that they were harrased (sic, harassed) by the Red Hen owner to the B&B owner/host. (Why they would make this up I have no idea)
Again, Peery DID NOT say that anyone in the Sanders party "confided" anything to him. Not in the Fox segment, and not anywhere else that I have seen.

The closest that I have seen is this interview, in which Peery says: "I'm sure a lot of people are wondering, if she came back and was bashing and she really wasn't, not one negative word, not one negative comment." In other words, she was polite.

AGAIN, I do not pretend to have read every article/interview arising from this debacle. If you have a link to a Peery interview in which he says anything consistent with your assertion, I will certainly consider it.
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Someone confronted them with a "shame" sign at the Southern Inn.(per Snopes)How in the world did these people holding the sign know that these folks were associated with Sanders?KInda strange,don't ya think?
Yes. I acknowledged the existence of this single sign, rather early in this exchange. A single, handwritten sign held briefly outside a window is hardly the same as the large organized protest described by Mike Huckabee.

How did the person holding that sign know that the Sanders family was dining at Country Inn? I do not know, and neither do you.

Wilkinson following down the street, shouting abuse and tracking them to their next destination? Sure, that is one possible scenario. Wilkinson or an employee calling a friend about the matter? Sure, that is possible as well. A Red Hen diner grabbing an after-dinner drink at the Southern Inn and recognizing the party? Also a realistic possibility. There are DOZENS of realistic scenarios.

And all of those possible explanations for this single, handwritten sign are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the question we were addressing: Is there any evidence of the existence of the large, organized sidewalk protest described by Mike Huckabee.

STILL, no such evidence has come to light.
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The owner and waiter have both changed their story about Sanders being asked to leave.Not gonna link but you can look up
Yes. Again, irrelevant to the issue under discussion ... this "pursuit" narrative.

Wilkinson asked SHS to leave her restaurant after her party had been seated. I have REPEATEDLY described that action as being deplorably-rude, despite being completely legal.

There have been some inconsistencies as to WHY Wilkinson did this, but I really don't CARE why she did it. She was rude, and she deserves condemnation for it.

AGAIN, however, irrelevant to the issue under discussion ... this "pursuit" narrative.
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The Red Hen owner (Stephanie Wilkerson) "encountered" the Huckabee party outside the Southern Inn (Gee,what are the odds being that it's a "few hundred feet away" from the her restaurant)

IF you can actually piece together these facts I think
any objective person would think that it wasn't some strange coincidence that the Red Owner did more than "encounter" the Sanders party later on in the evening.
Context can be important.

All of this took place on the "main drag" of a college town on a Friday night. Reasonable inference tells us that there were lots of people wandering around the area and that parking was probably tight.

I have never been to Lexington, Virgina or to Athens, Georgia, but I have spent a LOT of time in the analogous area of College Station. You are lucky to park within five or ten blocks of your destination, and people spend a LOT of time wandering on the street.

Given those reasonable inferences, there are AGAIN probably a dozen conceivable scenarios as to how Wilkinson and the Sanders party might have seen one another later in the evening.

The IMPORTANT fact, however, is that this later encounter has not been described as having been anything other than peaceable.



MORE CONTEXT. Since 22-June, this town has been swarmed by reporters like flies on a week-old cow carcass. Probably every employee of every business on Main Street has been approached for an interview. To their credit, most have declined the limelight, but many others HAVE participated in interviews.

If the media maggots had found even ONE person who could corroborate Mike Huckabee's account, do you really have any doubt that such person would have made appearances on a dozen news outlets by this time?

Not one such person has been found. To the contrary, employees at adjacent businesses have said that they saw no protest on the sidewalk on the night in question.

Given the time that has passed and the attention that has been focused, the only reasonable interpretation at this time is that the story got garbled in the process of transmission from the Sanders family to Sarah and then from Sarah to Mike. It is also entirely possible that some embellishment (intentional or not) was added at one point or another of the process.

You will insist otherwise, but I will not call you either a "moron" or an "idiot" for doing so. I will simply observe that you are clearly incapable of removing your partisan goggles and looking at this matter in an objective manner. I will further observe that this inability is a major problem in this country at this time.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 9:49 am
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