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Tactics Thread: Trends at the 2018 WC

Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:35 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:35 pm
The tactical trends in this WC are a little different from previous WC's, partly due to the variety of styles, and partly due to the fact that there is not one style that is dominate or in vogue.

In 2010 WC, we saw the double pivot employed by Spain, with two ball-handling DM's in Busquets and Xabi Alonso, kill teams with a suffocating possession game. It was truly the tournament of the 4-2-3-1, with Spain finally using it to great effect once they decided they couldn't jam both Torres and Villa into the same side.

In the 2014 WC, we saw extensive use of the three man defense, which was employed by four teams in the knockout stages. We also saw the continued inability of classic no. 9s to impose their ability on a game.

Here are some trends I saw in this year's group games.

1. Pressing-Pressing is rare enough in international soccer, so it was surprising to see it employed so prominently in some matches. Watching the Mexico-Germany game, the Mexicans employed a zonal pressing strategy that was selective, in the sense they pressed hard in certain areas of the field while remaining the low block, preventing their spacing from getting stretched, while also breaking upfield remarkably fast. This was also helped by Germany's decision to bring too many of the same type of player. Kroos and Gundogan are similar players, Khedira can't run anymore, and while Rudy is a passable solution at DM, they had better options that they left at home. Germany also brought quite a few of the same type of attacking player, with no player on the field who could stretch the game vertically, and no player willing to make dummy runs to stretch the game horizontally.

Another example is during the first Swiss goal against Serbia. In the first half, Serbia was clearly the better team, as they pressed as a team, though not zonally like the Mexicans. In that half, they pressed so that the distance between the forward line and defensive line wasn't stretched significantly, and choked out many Swiss attacks that way. On that first goal by the Swiss, we see Sommer pass quickly to Xhaka, who has two players converge onto him, leaving a massive space in midfield, and with a relatively simple pass, the Serbian team is split into a forward line of 4 and a defensive line of 6 with no midfield. The forward line of 4 made no attempt to get back into shape, which allowed Xhaka to run past them and to take advantage of the opportunity he created by his first station pass which broke the press.

Another example of the press was in the Spain-Portugal game, as the first goal was an example of when Spain wanted to play in the low block and move up the field together as a unit in order to minimize the space for Portugal to play. Portugal had a 3 v 2 overload on the left wing, which wasn't compensated for by the midfield, which led to a 1 v 1 between Nacho and Ronaldo, and eventually the penalty.

We also saw what happened when a team insists on the low block without pressing in the Iran v Portugal game, where Iran's insistence on the low block meant that Carvalho was free to receive the ball without pressure in zone 11, which meant that he could recycle possession, switch play, and attempt incisive passes without any fear of being dispossessed. The Iranians countered at around 13 minutes, with an Iranian attacker shadowing William to the extent that from around the 13th minute to the 35 minute (I think, I have to watch it again to be sure), Carvalho had around two short touches. Santos solution to this was to bring Carvalho back deep to split the CB's, overloading the Iranian attackers with a 3 v 2 situation, giving the man on the ball time to work around the Iranian attackers.

2. The Return of the Classic Striker: The pure no.9 hasn't really performed in the WC of late, with the Golden Shoe going to Muller in 2010, and James in 2014 (the exception to this was Forlan's mercurial performance in 2010, playing in a slightly withdrawn forward role). This WC, the leading scorers are two pure no.9s in Lukaku and Kane, both of whom excel at space-creation in and around the box. Kane exists in a somewhat unconventional system, as Southgate seemingly employs a 3-3-2-2, which leaves Kane in a 1 v 1 with his opposing CB often. Lukaku's game has always been trying to get the ball on the half-turn so he can use his strength to create an opportunity, and Belgium's midfield provides him with that option, as Hazard and De Bruyne move the ball very fast and the team insists on moving the ball from side to side at times, which is where those opportunities in the half-channels mostly arise.

3. The Continued Supremacy of the Midfield Maestro: Since the offside rule change in 2005, the possession game has become dominant. The team with the best DLP usually does well in tournament football. In 2006, you had Pirlo, in 08-12, you had Xavi (with another Pirlo appearance), in 2011 you had the criminally underrated Nestor Ortigoza for Paraguay in the Copa America, in 2016 you had the equally underrated William Carvalho absorbing pressure and relieving it masterfully. This tournament you have the Croatians, who have the best balance in midfield, with Rakitic and Modric holding possession and the underrated Brozovic helping the midfield control the pace of the game. This is with a player like Kovacic on the bench. But a DLP is only as good as his partner, as we saw with Kroos, who was ill-suited to work with an older Khedira, who could not cover space as well as he once could, and Gundogan, who is too similar and not dynamic enough in his movement to help Kroos. This isn't even counting the remarkable Busquets, who always provides an outlet for pressure, and basically is the better version of Carvalho.

Argentina's troubles are linked to their inability to find a place for Banega, and Brazil's continued success is built on Casemiro's ability to play the roles of both destroyer and passer, an underrated quality of his. In general, the best DLP's will be apart of the best teams, as the ability to control the game from deep is the most important quality in the game as it developed after 2005. Hence why a team like Croatia can compete, as well as a team like Switzerland, with Xhaka, who, if he is adequately protected, is a great DLP, though he's a terrible defender. Apart from goalscorer, the DLP will always be the most important player on the field, and teams that do not seemingly have space for a DLP (i.e. France, though Pogba can play this role, Belgium, Uruguay and England among others) might struggle in the bigger games towards the end of the tournament. There are ways of building teams so that you do not need to rely on a DLP (such as Argentina in 2014) but in general the benefits of DLP's outweigh the defensive costs. Croatia has the best in Modric, which means that I feel they could go deep into the tourney.

New trends will be highlighted in the knockout stages, as the talent disparity between teams usually disappears, and it becomes apparent what areas teams excel and what areas teams falter.
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted by S
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 5:54 pm to
Mexico’s finishing was poor but they got what they needed and their execution was brilliant at times.

I can’t wait to see what Bielsa does in these upcoming friendlies.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:00 pm to
Mexico actually employ an interesting system. It morphs from a 2 man to a 3 man defense, so that their attacking shape is something like a 3-3-1-3, which is a formation Bielsa likes as well because it covers the field vertically and horizontally. I would like to see a team with some classic 4-3-3 wingers like Belgium go up against that version, as in the attacking phase, it would pin the wingbacks deep, preventing them from getting forward, meaning that crashing on the 8 who is trying to link attack to defense would be an effective way of stopping them. Mexico do love their counterattacks though, and without keeping them from transitions, I'd imagine that would be their go to strategy in the knockout phases.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 6:47 pm to
Tifo Football has some good videos.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 8:34 pm to
Yeah I like watching Tifo football. They are a great introduction to tactics.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:18 pm to
Spain can take this, if they let go of Iniesta and Silva.

Both are brilliant, but slow.

Spain has missed at least 15 goal possibilities with them.

They can start, and befuddle, but they need to be taken off earlier than Hierro is doing.

Spain needs more Asensio..
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:23 pm to
Deschamps and Sampaoli baffle me, and I can’t help but think both teams would be better if those two were both sacked. And one of them is making at least the quarterfinals.

Sampaoli doesn’t know how to use Messi; he’s caught in two minds between having him be the scorer and the creator.

Deschamps, meanwhile, has no idea what he wants and is just hoping one of his stars makes a play.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:31 pm to
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New trends will be highlighted in the knockout stages, as the talent disparity between teams usually disappears, and it becomes apparent what areas teams excel and what areas teams falter.


Tons of two man midfield using the low block
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:35 pm to
This WC has also showed how the gap b/w nations is shrinking with players plying their trade in more tactically competent leagues.

The modern globalization of the game with technology has done wonders

Even though no African teams made it out the group stages, tactically and technically none of them other than Egypt, looked insanely out classed like in prior world cups when they relied mostly on speed and athletic superiority.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:43 pm to
Deschamps seems really committed to playing Giroud, and while Giroud is a really good target man, he's also limited. He can bring others into the play, but the team isn't focused around getting the ball to him. He's a bit of a passenger. A A fluid 4-3-3 with Mbappe as a central striker could work too. The talent on the team is tremendous. Tolisso might be the better option in the knockouts over Matuidi, but Matuidi's endless running helps him, as well as Matuidi's experience.

I feel for Sampaoli. He came into the team midway during qualification, and couldn't afford to tinker with players or systems. He's not the right man for the job right now, but he came into a difficult situation.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Even though no African teams made it out the group stages, tactically and technically none of them other than Egypt, looked insanely out classed like in prior world cups when they relied mostly on speed and athletic superiority.



That's a good point. I really wish Senegal went through. They didn't look out of their depth at all. I'm hopeful that even with this globalization, we can retain styles specific to certain areas of the world. I feel bad for Nigeria too, as they are clearly talented as well. Africa has to do a better job of ensuring its best teams qualify for the WC. Their qualification process is messy. But the fact that UEFA get 13 spots and CAF get 5 despite the fact that there are as many African teams as European teams probably informs their qualification process. That's one area where expanding the tournament will be good. Sure, you'll get some terrible teams like Saudi Arabia, but you'll also will increase the likelihood that teams like Ghana, Ivory Coast, Algeria, etc. qualify.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/29/18 at 11:02 pm to
And with Egypt, it wasn’t even the technical aspect of the game. You can very much see the European influence on its players even the domestic ones.

The issue was their manager was tactically out of his league. He was already under fire for being so defensive. It was clear he thought they could pick and choose when to counter and play long ball with Salah despite him getting no support at all. No one filling spaces for him to play the ball into and definitely no one making overlapping runs.

Senegal for as big and fast they are, were outstanding with the ball at their feet and looked very competent playing through the midfield and not just launching the ball up and trying to out run people

Nigeria might be entering a golden area of talent. With so many being brought up in English youth set ups it’s only going to get better. Will need players to fill in for the older players like Mikel who ran the midfield.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Even though no African teams made it out the group stages, tactically and technically none of them other than Egypt, looked insanely out classed like in prior world cups when they relied mostly on speed and athletic superiority.


Senegal and Nigeria's problem were falling asleep in what ended up being extremely crucial situations for them later on.

The only great goals I can recall being scored against either of them were the two Argentina scored against Nigeria.

Japan's two goals against Senegal were both from poor defending and Mina's goal happened due to horribly bad positioning from Gueye.



I mean, that is laughably pathetic. If he doesn't just watch the ball go in and does what he's supposed to, they're still playing.

Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:31 am to
Interesting read.

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This was also helped by Germany's decision to bring too many of the same type of player. Kroos and Gundogan are similar players, Khedira can't run anymore, and while Rudy is a passable solution at DM, they had better options that they left at home. 


Totally agree. Khedira shouldn't have been there.

quote:


2. The Return of the Classic Striker: The pure no.9


Kane and Lukaku have been really fun to watch. I like watching the big men body people and score.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:35 am to
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Lukaku


I'm not sure if it's just Rom coming into his own finally, or if Mourinho has had the same kind of effect like Pep had on Sterling, but he has turned into a complete player.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:42 am to
Under Jose he seems way more composed.

Its probably three factors, some of him coming into his own, better service, and the pressure Jose and the size of the club puts on him.

He is actually stepping up and will only get better.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:42 am to
quote:

I feel for Sampaoli. He came into the team midway during qualification, and couldn't afford to tinker with players or systems. He's not the right man for the job right now, but he came into a difficult situation.



He's playing Messi as a false 9 today
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:46 am to
Can someone explain Argentina's lineup. I get Messi wants Banega because of that one pass. Is Messi waiting to bring in Aguerro and Higuain late with fresh legs?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:55 am to
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better service,


This is likely the main one, but this feeds into the other points you made.

I also think he's the perfect No. 9 for what Jose wants to do.

Regarding Higuain and Aguero, Higuain has been complete arse this tournament. Aguero has been better, IMO, but he likes the ball at his feet, which doesn't really mix well in a team with Messi and with a poor midfield that struggle to supply him.

Aguero has also not been a great player historically with Argentina, granted, he's mostly been injured.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:57 am to
I know we all bag on Fox bc it’s sucks but, they are a perfect example why I enjoy watching BBC or ITV

The in-depth tactical break down they do is amazing on these players and matches
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