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Can someone please explain how congressional oversight during an ongoing investigation
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Happens if the investigation itself is corrupt? Preferably a lawyer could answer this. But I keep hearing the excuse of DOJ/FBI not giving documents to congressional oversight b/c there is an ongoing investigation. Isn't the very presence of THAT investigation in question, which is why oversight wants documents? It's like a never-ending corrupt circle.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 1:37 pm to Cali 4 LSU
No one? Not one opinion?
Posted on 6/28/18 at 1:46 pm to Cali 4 LSU
The FBI is totally corrupt and all of this leads back to that trashy fricking Kenyan and Hillary Clinton and they knownit. The DOJ is also corrupt as frick and they are not finished creating the fake documents that they are going to turn over.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:04 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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Happens if the investigation itself is corrupt? Preferably a lawyer could answer this. But I keep hearing the excuse of DOJ/FBI not giving documents to congressional oversight b/c there is an ongoing investigation. Isn't the very presence of THAT investigation in question, which is why oversight wants documents? It's like a never-ending corrupt circle.
Well, there are a couple of issues at play here.
To start with, of course the FBI and Justice Department have a legitimate concern when it comes to the secrecy of investigations. For reasons both connected to the privacy rights of people involved and for legitimate concerns about details of a case becoming public that shouldn't be public.
And Congress can't be trusted with secrets , PERIOD. This goes for BOTH parties, those guys and gals blab like little children. So while they're screaming "hey we're Congress, we have a right to know" we all know that whatever THEY know will be public information in a matter of days if not hours.
Congress is scum.
However, the bigger issue is after the fact information. shite like the FBI redacting information about $30K conference tables and such and claiming "national intelligence" that shite shouldn't fly, and Congress rightfully has a valid complaint there.
Congress , of course, has oversight , but there are legitimate circumstances in which immediate oversight of ongoing investigations is not appropriate.
The trick, of course, is figuring out which times are which.
In a case like this where an investigation has basically been going on for 2 years, and not a single shred of evidence has been made public to support the originating claim, then Congress probably should have access to everything involved with the investigation to determine why it is still ongoing.
The last 6 years I was in the Army, I did not conduct investigations myself, I oversaw other agents conducting those investigations, and part of my oversight was looking through documents and hearing testimony to determine if cases need to be closed when it looked like they were dragging on for no valid reason.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 2:08 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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shite like the FBI redacting information about $30K conference tables
It was actually a $70K conference table.
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In a case like this where an investigation has basically been going on for 2 years, and not a single shred of evidence has been made public to support the originating claim, then Congress probably should have access to everything involved with the investigation to determine why it is still ongoing.
This is exactly 100% why Congress should have access to the scope of the investigation, when it started, if there were humit assets used and when.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:03 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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In a case like this where an investigation has basically been going on for 2 years, and not a single shred of evidence has been made public to support the originating claim, then Congress probably should have access to everything involved with the investigation to determine why it is still ongoing.
Is there any precedent? Just wondering b/c I get why democrats & DOJ/FBI are arguing "ongoing investigation" but if the very investigation is tainted (which it CLEARLY is) & the investigation is the subject of scrutiny, there seems to be an impasse. Just curious.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:12 pm to Cali 4 LSU
There are documents from CRS reports and elsewhere that go into this. Congress is absolutely entitled to these documents, especially considering the involvement of misconduct. That directly invokes their oversight responsibility. The DOJ is 100% in the wrong. You can search for an item called "When Congress Comes Calling" and it goes into this.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:18 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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This is exactly 100% why Congress should have access to the scope of the investigation, when it started, if there were humit assets used and when.
Then why are the democrats against it? Aren't they lawyers? Don't they know better? What if their fears are true and Nunes runs to tell Trump (subject of investigation)? Can't Trump get all the info anyway by declassifying it? That's what many on here, and on the news, have eluded to...that Trump could just declassify it & end all the charades....
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:37 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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That's what many on here, and on the news, have eluded to...that Trump could just declassify it & end all the charades..
There are procedures in place that need to happen
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:53 pm to starsandstripes
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There are documents from CRS reports and elsewhere that go into this. Congress is absolutely entitled to these documents, especially considering the involvement of misconduct. That directly invokes their oversight responsibility. The DOJ is 100% in the wrong. You can search for an item called "When Congress Comes Calling" and it goes into this.
So regardless of ongoing investigation, DOJ/FBI is required to provide any information requested by congressional oversight?
Posted on 6/28/18 at 5:56 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
You wrote way too much to say nothing of value
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