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re: Is there a running list of Trump wins, that we can add the cake ruling to?

Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:36 pm to
You know that both sides are claiming a win here right? If anything its pro-LGBTQ

"Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

But Kennedy said the state commission's hostility toward religion "was inconsistent with the First Amendment's guarantee that our laws be applied in a manner that is neutral toward religion."

Kennedy wrote that any ruling in favor of creative professionals must be "sufficiently constrained, lest all purveyors of goods and services who object to gay marriages for moral and religious reasons in effect be allowed to put up signs saying 'no goods or services will be sold if they will be used for gay marriages,' something that would impose a serious stigma on gay persons."
This post was edited on 6/4/18 at 2:38 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:45 pm to
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You know that both sides are claiming a win here right? If anything its pro-LGBTQ

Nah. That's just silly.

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Kennedy wrote that any ruling in favor of creative professionals must be "sufficiently constrained, lest all purveyors of goods and services who object to gay marriages for moral and religious reasons in effect be allowed to put up signs saying 'no goods or services will be sold if they will be used for gay marriages,' something that would impose a serious stigma on gay persons

99% of the people who support the bakers support this.

Meanwhile, 100% of the anti-baker people oppose it.

If the only issue was not being allowed to put up a sign refusing to serve ANY gays........this wouldn't even be a famous issue.

Every single famous case has required either
1. The contractor(cake, photographer etc) to either create something unique to a gay event

or

2. Contractor participation in said event.

And, there's really no way after this ruling to continue to force either 1 or 2.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:06 pm to
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"Our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or as inferior in dignity and worth," Kennedy wrote.

And Kennedy is about to be replaced by a much more conservative justice. Expect the fence riding to end. No more cakes for you.
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