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Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:42 pm to lsu480
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Dude I think a plane hit the Pentagon so I am not holding on to any theory, I am only asking why they haven't released better video.
Why is it that we are to believe wreckage several meters away from the crash site with AA markings on it, yet the only photos which CrowPie posted show them extinguishing the flames with no plane in the building?
Look at every plane that has been shot down or crashed - 99% of them are still at least somewhat intact. Fwiw I’m not a conspiracy guy but always found it strange there isn’t a single photo of the wreckage inside the outer Pentagon walls.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:44 pm to Dale51
Dale51--I base it on their PNAC document where they discuss their vision for reshaping our presence in the middle east and fighting multiple, simultaneous wars. The group sent a letter to President Clinton asking for the removal of Saddam Hussein. Also, the day before 9/11 the Bush team agreed on a plan to oust the Taliban in Afghanistan if they didn't turn over Bin Laden.
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:44 pm to idlewatcher
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Fwiw I’m not a conspiracy guy but always found it strange there isn’t a single photo of the wreckage inside the outer Pentagon walls.
There were some posted back up the thread.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:45 pm to NikolaiJakov
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I believe Bush and Cheney wanted the war with Iraq and Afghanistan Fortunately what you believe doesn't really matter.
I believe it based on the facts of the PNAC document they helped write. I believe them based on their own words.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:45 pm to skeeter531
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Dale51--I base it on their PNAC document where they discuss their vision for reshaping our presence in the middle east and fighting multiple, simultaneous wars. The group sent a letter to President Clinton asking for the removal of Saddam Hussein. Also, the day before 9/11 the Bush team agreed on a plan to oust the Taliban in Afghanistan if they didn't turn over Bin Laden.
None of that is actual evidence of anything.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:47 pm to Jimbeaux
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Having said that, what do aviation experts have to say about the possibility of a plane being able to fly so low to the ground?
That even an expert pilot would get it 1 out of 10 times.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:50 pm to Dale51
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quote: Dale51--I base it on their PNAC document where they discuss their vision for reshaping our presence in the middle east and fighting multiple, simultaneous wars. The group sent a letter to President Clinton asking for the removal of Saddam Hussein. Also, the day before 9/11 the Bush team agreed on a plan to oust the Taliban in Afghanistan if they didn't turn over Bin Laden. None of that is actual evidence of anything.
It's more believable than a bunch of untrained losers were directed by a man in a cave to outsmart the entire US national security, IMO.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:52 pm to highpockets
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...bottom line that guy had to fly a plane at 500 MPH 25 feet off of the ground to hit the pentagon at that angle, nearly impossible
I have been in a plane flying at 25 feet at over 500 Mph, it is not anything special. The are endless videos of planes making high speed low level passes on YouTube, some a lot lower that 25 feet.
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also the mess left behind was not that of a typical plane crash.
Other than the parts painted in American Airlines colors, the engine fan blades, landing gear pieces, and other aircraft parts, what was there that didn't look like typical plane crash?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:54 pm to Ebbandflow
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That even an expert pilot would get it 1 out of 10 times.
Nonsense.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:55 pm to Ebbandflow
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That even an expert pilot would get it 1 out of 10 times.
Do just make shite up?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:56 pm to EA6B
The government told us all however, that these guys could barely fly a small plane, let alone a 757.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:57 pm to skeeter531
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It's more believable than a bunch of untrained losers
Untrained in what?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:59 pm to northshorebamaman
we were told that they were terrible students at flight schools and could barely fly. How did they learn how fly a 757?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 5:59 pm to skeeter531
Thats nice.
None of that New York Times article substantiates any of what you claim. "Some sources claim...people close to the operation...it is suggested that..bank records show", etc, etc.
How does your article prove that Bush, Cheney, etc, concocted and carried out, or let it the 911 attacks happen?
None of that New York Times article substantiates any of what you claim. "Some sources claim...people close to the operation...it is suggested that..bank records show", etc, etc.
How does your article prove that Bush, Cheney, etc, concocted and carried out, or let it the 911 attacks happen?
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:01 pm to skeeter531
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It's more believable than a bunch of untrained losers were directed by a man in a cave to outsmart the entire US national security, IMO.
Thats a strawman. The claim that they were "untrained losers"..directed by "a man in a cave" is simply nonsense.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:04 pm to Dale51
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quote: It's more believable than a bunch of untrained losers were directed by a man in a cave to outsmart the entire US national security, IMO. Thats a strawman. The claim that they were "untrained losers"..directed by "a man in a cave" is simply nonsense.
Says you.
I've read many, many books which all have had many different theories and also have read the 9/11 commission report (which the co-chairs have said outright is largely fiction) and I have decided what makes the most sense to me. I reject the far out theories and discussion of building 7 etc. and focus on who was behind the conspiracy, however it occurred. Someday I hope the truth comes out.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:04 pm to skeeter531
It is also noteworthy that Bin Laden was never on the FBI most wanted list for 9/11. He was never charged with 9/11. There was NO proof.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:07 pm to kingbob
So did they go in low to avoid radar?
seems they would have wanted to go straight down into the middle where the important people are
seems they would have wanted to go straight down into the middle where the important people are
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