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re: Newly released 9/11 footage of Pentagon: Airliner or missile?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:07 pm to skeeter531
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:07 pm to skeeter531
Atta had his pilots license before they even began plotting the attack. As far as the others, I'm not a pilot, but I suspect that crashing the plane is not all that difficult. Hani Hanjour, the pilot of AA 77, had an FAA commercial pilot certificate with a satisfactory rating so he had to be somewhat proficient. In any case, it's a stretch to refer to them as untrained.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 6:19 pm
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:11 pm to skeeter531
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The government told us all however, that these guys could barely fly a small plane, let alone a 757.
They didn't have to take off, land, maintain level flight and airspeed, or a multitude of other things needed to fly a single engine Cessna. The plane was already in the air in cruise configuration, all they had to know how to do was enter the locations of the buildings into the flight management system, and the planes would have flown there. It was known rhey had previously gone to the twin towers with handheld GPS units probably to verify the coordinates..
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:11 pm to skeeter531
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Says you.
No..says objective and observable reality. You make it sounds like the multi millionaire Bin Ladin family were goat herders, along with the 19 hijackers. This is nonsense.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:12 pm to skeeter531
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I reject the far out theories...
Uh Huh..
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:13 pm to EA6B
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They didn't have to take off, land, maintain level flight and airspeed, or a multitude of other things needed to fly a single engine Cessna.
Exactly. It makes perfect sense that they were poor students. They would have been only interested in specific portions of the course.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:14 pm to skeeter531
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It is also noteworthy that Bin Laden was never on the FBI most wanted list for 9/11. He was never charged with 9/11. There was NO proof.
The FBI deals with domestic crimes.
Bin Laden admitted it.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:15 pm to northshorebamaman
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As far as the others, I'm not a pilot, but I suspect that crashing the plane is not at all difficult
When you don't have to be concerned with the plane or passengers surviving, the needed skill level drops considerably.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:16 pm to GnashRebel
Your post makes sense.
What is the explanation for the lack of a plane sized entry hole in the Pentagon?
Even the WTC buildings had gigantic wing size holes in the sides of the buildings.
Pentagon had a 10' x 15' hole and allegedly no plane parts were found among the wreckage.
(all according to this conspiracy video: LINK )
I have never been a 9/11 truther, just looking for a logical explanation like your post above about the alleged damage (or lack of) in this video.
What is the explanation for the lack of a plane sized entry hole in the Pentagon?
Even the WTC buildings had gigantic wing size holes in the sides of the buildings.
Pentagon had a 10' x 15' hole and allegedly no plane parts were found among the wreckage.
(all according to this conspiracy video: LINK )
I have never been a 9/11 truther, just looking for a logical explanation like your post above about the alleged damage (or lack of) in this video.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:20 pm to Dale51
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The FBI deals with domestic crimes.
https://www.fbi.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/international-operations
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For more than seven decades, the FBI has stationed special agents and other personnel overseas to help protect Americans back home by building relationships with principal law enforcement, intelligence, and security services around the globe that help ensure a prompt and continuous exchange of information.
Today, we have 64 legal attaché offices—commonly known as legats—and more than a dozen smaller sub-offices in key cities around the globe, providing coverage for more than 200 countries, territories, and islands. Each office is established through mutual agreement with the host country and is situated in the U.S. embassy or consulate in that nation.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:22 pm to IllegalPete
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What is the explanation for the lack of a plane sized entry hole in the Pentagon? Even the WTC buildings had gigantic wing size holes in the sides of the buildings.
Mostly glass walls vs reinforced concrete may have something to do with it.
*there are some good 911 myths debunking sources to check out.*
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:23 pm to Dale51
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quote: It is also noteworthy that Bin Laden was never on the FBI most wanted list for 9/11. He was never charged with 9/11. There was NO proof. The FBI deals with domestic crimes. Bin Laden admitted it.
Bin Laden WAS on the Most Wanted List. But NOT for 9/11. He was wanted for other crimes such as the USS Cole. He was never formally charged with 9/11.
Of course he admitted it. What a spectacular thing to take credit for!
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:25 pm to skeeter531
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I believe it based on the facts of the PNAC document they helped write. I believe them based on their own words.
Again. It doesn't matter what you believe. Even if it's true, the fact that you saying it has no bearing on anything but your own personal self-gratification. If I said I believe the Clintons killed Seth Rich, so what? My opinion means nothing.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:27 pm to IllegalPete
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(all according to this conspiracy vide
He discredited himself in the first couple of sentences when he claimed that "No plane wreckage was found."
He probably made himself a few easy bucks doing speaking engagements before the fad died down.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:27 pm to NikolaiJakov
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Again. It doesn't matter what you believe. Even if it's true, the fact that you saying it has no bearing on anything but your own personal self-gratification. If I said I believe the Clintons killed Seth Rich, so what? My opinion means nothing
Not so. I'm relying on the words of the people I suspect of being behind 9/11. If you had a document written by Hillary where she laid out her reasons for wanting Seth Rich dead, it would be reasonable to SUSPECT her of the crime.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:28 pm to IllegalPete
Thats nice.
The context was in reference to the FBI's "Ten Most Wanted" list.
The context was in reference to the FBI's "Ten Most Wanted" list.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:30 pm to IllegalPete
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I have never been a 9/11 truther, just looking for a logical explanation like your post above about the alleged damage (or lack of) in this video.
Ummm. The pentagon is made out of thick reinforced concrete with blast resistant windows.
The towers were much less secure on the exterior.
I mean just think logically for just a second.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:33 pm to skeeter531
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Bin Laden WAS on the Most Wanted List. But NOT for 9/11. He was wanted for other crimes such as the USS Cole.
He was on the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" List. Not the "Ten most wanted" list.
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The FBI Most Wanted Terrorists was a list created and first released on October 10, 2001, with the authority of United States President Bush, following the September 11 attacks on the United States.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:35 pm to idlewatcher
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et the only photos which CrowPie posted show them extinguishing the flames with no plane in the building?
500 MPH, a shell of an aircraft, and 10,000 gallons of jet fuel. You see, the difference when a plane is shot down/or hits the ground, there is little to nothing to absorb the impact (speaking in terms of debris), just dirt (usually) when it hits the ground (which quickly compacts and it's plane vs. the earth), causing massive deflection. When a plane hits a stationary building, the building absorbs almost all of the impact (and moves with the impact) and the plane continues a ways, all while the building holds most of the debris and the rest burns in a very hot fire from the jet fuel. I question if most of the "conspiracy theorists" have taken even basic physics.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:42 pm to CleverUserName
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Ummm. The pentagon is made out of thick reinforced concrete with blast resistant windows.
From my understanding it was just sheathed in limestone. If it had been reinforced concrete, the building would not have looked like that after.
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Certainly the threat of any kind of terrorist attack on the building was far from the thoughts of the original designers. As a result, the Pentagon was constructed with a thin limestone facade over a brick infill between reinforced concrete floors, structurally supported by a reinforced concrete beam and column frame. Enough to protect from the elements but not from the potential forces of significant blast events.
So basically, its framework looked like this:
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 4/27/18 at 6:43 pm to kingbob
It was an airliner.
I know someone personally that helped recover pieces of bodies and identify them through DNA testing among other things. Literally on their knees many times scouring through rubble and debris picking up pieces and parts. They were identified as passengers from the airliner as well as the pentagon.
I know someone personally that helped recover pieces of bodies and identify them through DNA testing among other things. Literally on their knees many times scouring through rubble and debris picking up pieces and parts. They were identified as passengers from the airliner as well as the pentagon.
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