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re: Anyone Else Purchasing a Robert E. Lee Concrete Statue

Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Even if you disregard the ownership argument


I accept your gracious concession...

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it is a fact that Robert E. Lee was directly involved in slavery through his management of the Custis slaves.


I've said as much in this thread. I've conceded it is a fairly fine distinction. However, we must embrace FACTS before going off the rails with emotional arguments.

In the case of U.S. Grant - he actually purchased at least 1 slave, then freed him "for consideration" some years later. As far as the slaves he administered at White Haven, it has always been assumed that they wandered off as did most Missouri slaves between 1862 and 1865 - also, as you and I have pointed out, slavery was Constitutionally ended in January, 1865, both in Missouri and later that month for the United States, extant, via the XIIIth Amendment.

But we have no evidence he took any affirmative action to free any of the White Haven slaves, particularly beyond his man, William Jones (sorry, I may have said William Joseph elsewhere in this thread.)
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51475 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Even if you disregard the ownership argument



I accept your gracious concession...



I'm not conceding, just avoiding a bog.

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I've said as much in this thread. I've conceded it is a fairly fine distinction. However, we must embrace FACTS before going off the rails with emotional arguments.


Did I say anything emotional? I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at here. That U.S. Grant was worse than R.E. Lee on the issue of slavery?
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